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Re: Texases: [jrosasmc] by fintail
Nov 06, 2009 (12:22 pm)
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Replying to: jrosasmc (Nov 06, 2009 7:23 am)

That would be the W116 Like this awesomely period colored example the MB Classic Center was selling at the museum in Stuttgart...it was actually sold too, judging by the prices of their other offerings, probably for around 20K Euro.
 
Europe actually got the diesel W116 too, with cool "turbodiesel" cursive script on the trunklid. Europe never got the diesel W126, strangely enough.
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. by fintail
Nov 06, 2009 (12:27 pm)
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Went to Luzern and a few other places today...saw a wide-whitewalled W111 cabrio, another LeBaron convertible, a Saab 9000 parked in the village neighboring where I am staying, have seen a few Dodge diesel trucks in industrial use, a later Grand Marquis near a train station, a ca. 2000 Chrysler 300 being used as a taxi, and What one does not expect to see at a park and ride lot in Schaffhausen Switzerland
 
Visited the Swiss Transport Museum too, but was short on time. They have a decent selection of cars in a weird rack for viewing...including a Tatra 77, which is an awesome car. I also noticed they had a Ferrari Daytona and a Miura.
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Re: . [fintail] by au1994
Nov 06, 2009 (12:47 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Nov 06, 2009 12:27 pm)

Schaffhausen and Zurich are beautiful. Don't miss the Rheinfall near Schaffhausen. Just an awesome sight.
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Re: Ghulet: [colloquor] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 06, 2009 (4:54 pm)
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Replying to: colloquor (Nov 06, 2009 11:19 am)

Not a very good car, either, but a good try.
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Re: . [au1994] by fintail
Nov 07, 2009 (9:43 am)
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Replying to: au1994 (Nov 06, 2009 12:47 pm)

Oh yeah, I was there. My friend, who like most Swiss is intensely proud of his country, is obsessed with the Rheinfall and that region - he lives in a tiny hamlet maybe 20km away. He had to show it off, and the city itself, which is really nice without the insane prices of Zurich. We had to spend an entire day in Schaffhausen and I have been to Zurich a couple times in the past few days. I could deal with living there.
 
Today I put about 650km on the Panzerwagen - getting over 30mpg in the beast, which is amazing as I do not take it slowly on German highways. I am going to miss that car a little...for the economy, and the very comfortable seats. That kind of mileage and effortless 120+ mph cruising...can't ask for more.
 
Today's oddities...Lancia Thema towing a Renault 19 cabrio, BMW 3.0 sedan driven by an ancient man, an 80s Corvette and a late 80s Firebird in Vaduz, and the tiniest VW vanlet towing a large horse trailer. I also saw a new 7er and a W212 wagon that I think were factory test vehicles - they had all kinds of decals to that extent.
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Re: . [fintail] by boomchek
Nov 07, 2009 (9:56 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Nov 07, 2009 9:43 am)

30mpg in the beast, which is amazing as I do not take it slowly on German highways.....That kind of mileage and effortless 120+ mph cruising...can't ask for more.
 
That's why diesels are so popular in Europe. You don't feel like you're driving a penalty box or a sedan with a truck motor.
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Re: . [boomchek] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 07, 2009 (10:06 am)
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Replying to: boomchek (Nov 07, 2009 9:56 am)

Maybe if Europe hadn't sent us only the penalty box diesels to begin with, then Americans would have a higher opinion of them than they do. All we got were clackety Benzes, bone-shaking VWs and Peugeots and Volvos, and of course American Oldsmobiles and Cadillacs (nuff said).
 
Those early diesels in America were the "obscure queens" to be sure.
 
The only BMW diesels we saw were marine turbo diesels.
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Re: . [Mr_Shiftright] by boomchek
Nov 07, 2009 (10:13 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 07, 2009 10:06 am)

You're right, but lately there hasn't been any diesels from europe in the US, but in Canada we had the Grand Cherokee with the Mercedes 3.0L diesel, and the first gen smart car had a 3 cylinder diesel.
 
I haven't driven the samrt but the Grand Cherokee is really nice to drive.
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Re: . [boomchek] by fintail
Nov 07, 2009 (11:16 am)
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Replying to: boomchek (Nov 07, 2009 10:13 am)

Speaking of clackety Benzes, the 730d has a cold idle noise that would scare most unwashed North Americans - it is not a silent vehicle from the outside. Inside it is very muffled and you can barely tell, but outside at low speed...no doubt what the car is. However, unlike the diesels of old, it is very smooth.
 
The lowline E200 CDi I had for a day about 2 weeks ago was the same way...it was not a discreet diesel, and you had a definite mechanical connection between your ears and the car at idle and low speeds. I don't mind it though.
 
I think it is another way Europe has progressed past NA.
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Re: . [fintail] by boomchek
Nov 07, 2009 (11:19 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Nov 07, 2009 11:16 am)

I envy your driving trip.
 
The only thing I did that was closest to it (other than my parents driving thru eastern europe to italy when I was 7) was driving on many great roads and highways in Need For Speed: Porsche Unleashed in a variety of Porsches.

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