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Re: Spotted an old Hudson [andre1969] by fintail
Nov 01, 2009 (10:53 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 01, 2009 10:44 am)

Wow, 1980 was an awesome year . My 1981 CG makes no such bold statements on the cover...they must have learned hard and fast that most of those cars were marginal at best.
 
In 1980 my mom was holding on to her bloated T-Bird as neither of my parents embraced the downsized models. I think my dad's Horizon was around by then...which he was very fond of.
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Re: Spotted an old Hudson [andre1969] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 01, 2009 (11:00 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 01, 2009 10:44 am)

1955 brought us 12 volt systems, a short-stroke V8 for "everyman", fabulous new colors and two-tones (or three-tones) beautiful interiors. It was a great year. I don't think we'll see another like it.
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Re: Spotted an old Hudson [andre1969] by berri
Nov 01, 2009 (12:52 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 01, 2009 10:44 am)

I agree that 55,57 and 65/66 were pivitol years in postwar American cars. You might also consider 1949.
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Re: Spotted an old Hudson [berri] by euphonium
Nov 01, 2009 (5:20 pm)
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Replying to: berri (Nov 01, 2009 12:52 pm)

"You might also consider 1949"
 
'49 was the BIG change/improvement because it was the first year the manufacturers didn't inflict their 1942 warmovers. '49 introduced the new Cad and Olds Kettering V8's in new bodies, although the '48 Cad had the same Fisher, but with the old Flat head V8. GM's Hydromatic was a 4 speed, but power steering was yet to be. A 49 Cad torpedo coupe with the 331 c.i. V8 caught my eye then.
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Re: Spotted an old Hudson [Mr_Shiftright] by explorerx4
Nov 01, 2009 (6:06 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 01, 2009 11:00 am)

no props for the old everyman ford v8 flathead?
i have to laugh, my neighbors Z06 sounds like one.
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Re: Spotted an old Hudson [berri] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 01, 2009 (6:11 pm)
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Replying to: berri (Nov 01, 2009 12:52 pm)

I'd go for '65 for a number of reasons but 1949 still had flathead engines in many cars, (Ford, Chrysler, Studebaker, Nash, Hudson) boxy styling (although finally a break from pre-war dies and bodies). Also few cars with AC, only upscale models with power steering.
 
65 of course is the beginning of the muscle car era (well '64 I guess), the Mustang, fresh new body styles.
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Re: Spotted an old Hudson [Mr_Shiftright] by hpmctorque
Nov 01, 2009 (8:02 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 01, 2009 6:11 pm)

Chrysler introduced its 331 c.i. hemi and power steering for the '51 model year.
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Re: Spotted an old Hudson [hpmctorque] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 02, 2009 (6:13 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Nov 01, 2009 8:02 pm)

Yes. Of course that "Hemi" is not the hemi of the 60s. Good for its day, but soon dethroned by the 265/283 Chevy. And a '51 Chrysler still looks like grandpa's car.
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Re: Spotted an old Hudson [Mr_Shiftright] by andre1969
Nov 02, 2009 (6:50 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 02, 2009 6:13 am)

Yes. Of course that "Hemi" is not the hemi of the 60s. Good for its day, but soon dethroned by the 265/283 Chevy. And a '51 Chrysler still looks like grandpa's car.
 
Those old Hemis were pretty impressive for the time, though. The Chrysler 331 put out 180 hp when it first came out for 1951. That same year, Cadillac's 331 only had 160. 1955 marked the end for the Caddy 331 and Chrysler's 331 Hemi (the 1956 Windsor used a 331 but it was a poly head), and that year they both had 250 hp, although the Eldorado offered 270 hp while the C300 had 300.
 
DeSoto's first Hemi, the 276.1, put out 160 hp in 1952. Oldsmobile's famed "Rocket" V-8 put out the same hp...but required 303 cubes to do it!
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Re: Spotted an old Hudson [andre1969] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 02, 2009 (7:45 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 02, 2009 6:50 am)

Yeah but if you drive an early Hemi, it's pretty lazy compared to a short-stroke Chevy and it's a gas hog. But sure, for 1951 the cat's pajamas as grandpa used to say. I think they had some good success with hot rodders though who built the engines up and made them work better. But these early Hemis never did well against GM cars in the 50s and early 60s. Later on, of course, Mopars ruled!!

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