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Re: Two Champs [oregonboy] by toomanyfumes
Oct 31, 2009 (11:48 am)
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Replying to: oregonboy (Oct 31, 2009 11:14 am)

When I was a teenager a girlfriend had a twin-stick Mitsubishi just like that. In first gear/low range it would smoke the tires pretty good.
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Re: Spotted an old Hudson [Mr_Shiftright] by oldcem
Oct 31, 2009 (10:12 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Oct 30, 2009 8:26 pm)

Your absolutely right. The 57 I looked at probably needed $10 - 15 K worth of work to get it in shape. I'm not sure it would bring $20K + nowadays, if I went to resell it. It's just not a real attactive car to me - huge size and loaded with chrome. My Grandfather had a 55 with the white over blue paint scheme that I frequently drove, and, I loved that car.
 
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Oldengineer
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Re: Spotted an old Hudson [oldcem] by andre1969
Nov 01, 2009 (7:32 am)
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Replying to: oldcem (Oct 31, 2009 10:12 pm)

I think the main thing I didn't like about the '57 Oldsmobiles was that 3-piece rear window that they used. It gave the car sort of a clunky, old-fashioned look. Buick Specials and Centurys used the same roof, but I think the Buick somehow managed to pull it off a bit better. Maybe the larger rear wheel openings, and bolder fins helped?
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Re: Spotted an old Hudson [andre1969] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 01, 2009 (7:57 am)
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Re: Spotted an old Hudson [andre1969] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 01, 2009 (7:58 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 01, 2009 7:32 am)

I think stylists took a huge leap from the dowdy and drab cars of 1954 (especially in the entry-level makes) to The Clean Sheet of 1955 (the first consistently modern-looking and technically advanced cars after WW II), and then with that momentum they tried to outdo themselves every year. Well, as you can imagine, at that level of intensity and change, you'd soon go from classic clean to highly stylish to grotesque in a red hot minute. And by 1958, that's what happened.
 
It's not ALL BAD. Even when designers went over the top, there was a *vitality* to car design that we don't see as much today---now and then we do, but not at the ferocious pace of the mid 50s IMO.
 
1955 brought luxury, style and technology to the "common man". A great year for cars--perhaps the most defining year *ever* in automotive styling.
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Re: Spotted an old Hudson [andre1969] by imidazol97
Nov 01, 2009 (8:04 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 01, 2009 7:32 am)

>'57 Oldsmobiles was that 3-piece rear window that they used.
 
Was the 3-piece rear window a throwback to an earlier car which used that pattern of rear window? I keep thinking it was to give the car a halo of elegance by association with an earlier car model that was luxury with a 3-piece rear window.
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. by fintail
Nov 01, 2009 (9:02 am)
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Today I saw one of the new style Ladas on the road, German plates, actually moving about 150 km/h on the Autobahn. Homely thing.
 
I also saw a 2CV on a country road, a Daewoo Lanos, and a Hyundai Pony.
 
And the highlight, spotted on another country road, a SWB Quattro, like this:
 

 
In the same area, not far from the Czech border, I also saw some kind of classic auto dismantler. Piles of body parts, including roof sections for fintails and pontons. I don't know what good those could do.
 
On another subject, I have noticed Germans will tow anything with anything. Tow a gigantic camping trailer with a Mondeo? No problem. Tow a wrecked 911 with an old W124 coupe? No problem. Tow a horse trailer with a Focus wagon (I'm not kidding)? No problem.
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Re: . [fintail] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 01, 2009 (9:10 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Nov 01, 2009 9:02 am)

That's because Germans KNOW HOW TO DRIVE. It costs them quite a lot of $$$ and plenty of testing just to get a license, unlike America, where you can procure them in vending machines.
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Re: Spotted an old Hudson [Mr_Shiftright] by andre1969
Nov 01, 2009 (10:44 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 01, 2009 7:58 am)

Yeah, it's amazing how fast everything changed in 1955 Even if some cars weren't all-new, they still seemed it. For instance, GM actually re-did all their B- and C-bodies for 1954, so for 1955 only the Chevy and Pontiac were actually new designs. I've also heard that the 1955 Ford and Mercury weren't all-new, but rather just a heavy facelift of the 1954. However, they still looked fully up-to-date.
 
That must have been an exciting time to buy a car, with so much so new out there. I think 1957 and 1965 were probably also exciting years. We'll probably never again see a time when so many new vehicles get launched at once.
 
For comparison, here's what Consumer Guide highlighted on the front cover of their 1980 auto guide...
"All New FWD Cadillac Seville"
"Four Wheel Drive AMC Eagle"
"Distinctive Dodge Mirada"
"Smaller, Lighter Ford Thunderbird".
 
And on the back cover, in full color...
"Chrysler's Classy New Cordoba"
"First Four Door Continental Mark VI"
"More Aerodynamic Buick Electra"
"Mercury's More Compact Cougar"
"Popular New Pontiac Phoenix"
"Plymouth's Gran Fury Returns"
 
Exciting times, eh? Actually, they seemed it at the time to me, but I was only 9 years old. Plus, we got a new car that year, a 1980 Malibu. Not exactly cutting edge technology, but at the time it seemed light years ahead of the '75 LeMans it replaced.
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Re: . [Mr_Shiftright] by fintail
Nov 01, 2009 (10:50 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 01, 2009 9:10 am)

Oh, I know that...I spent over 5 hours on the Autobahn today and maybe 90 mins on secondary roads. Zero LLCs. Zero phone yappers. Zero oblivious idiots. Germany might have its share of problems, but roads and drivers are not some of them.
 
I was thinking of vehicles being over-exerted. Pulling a trailer holding a Porsche with a 20 year old MB, almost certainly an automatic...seems risky.
 
Oh yeah, overall mpg in the diesel tank is 8.2l/100km so far...not too shabby, as I cruised at around 100-110 mph for long stretches today and even got up to about 130 for a little bit...but the winter tires are rated for no more, so I backed off.

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