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Re: . [kyfdx] by fintail
Oct 31, 2009 (9:32 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Oct 31, 2009 4:40 am)

It's about $80 day, which includes lowish-deductible insurance, as I don't think Amex would cover something that pricey - sticker on it would be around 85K Euros I think. I do have it for over a week, which lowers the rate...but what the hell, you only live once. I barely drove it today, as I am near a U-bahn and parking is tough where I visited...but tomorrow I probably have a good 5-6 hours of driving ahead.
 
And yeah, make gas that expensive, and the scene changes. I know more than half of the new cars here are diesel. I've only seen one example each of an Exploder, Trailblazer, and Durango - probably servicemen vehicles or bought from military people. Other than that, a scattered Euro or Japanese SUV, but not many. People here do it the right way - if they need to haul people or things, they buy a wagon or a small van. No 4x4 ego to be found, but tons of wagons and little mpvs.
 
The gas price is both from taxes and the worthless dollar. Those taxes pay for some amazing roads, makes where I live look like Beirut. It's a tradeoff. I can't say I think the quality of life in places I have experienced in the US is any better than here. Some things do seem cheaper - non-restaurant food especially.
 
Today I saw a few oddities...a mid 60s Chevy truck, a TR6, a late 80s Escort convertible, white with white wheels- very 80s, and about a million MB W124 and W201...those things really survived.
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just a tad of depreciation by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Oct 31, 2009 (9:59 am)
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Here's a car you don't see everyday. It only cost the previous owner about $6 a mile to drive:
 
http://www.ferraris-online.com/pages/carintro.php?reqcardir=MA-GT-40629
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Two Champs by oregonboy
Oct 31, 2009 (11:14 am)
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A rebadged Mitsubishi: Twin-Stick
 
And a cool old pickup: Studebaker
 
 
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Re: Two Champs [oregonboy] by toomanyfumes
Oct 31, 2009 (11:48 am)
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When I was a teenager a girlfriend had a twin-stick Mitsubishi just like that. In first gear/low range it would smoke the tires pretty good.
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Re: Spotted an old Hudson [Mr_Shiftright] by oldcem
Oct 31, 2009 (10:12 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Oct 30, 2009 8:26 pm)

Your absolutely right. The 57 I looked at probably needed $10 - 15 K worth of work to get it in shape. I'm not sure it would bring $20K + nowadays, if I went to resell it. It's just not a real attactive car to me - huge size and loaded with chrome. My Grandfather had a 55 with the white over blue paint scheme that I frequently drove, and, I loved that car.
 
Regards:
Oldengineer
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Re: Spotted an old Hudson [oldcem] by andre1969
Nov 01, 2009 (7:32 am)
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Replying to: oldcem (Oct 31, 2009 10:12 pm)

I think the main thing I didn't like about the '57 Oldsmobiles was that 3-piece rear window that they used. It gave the car sort of a clunky, old-fashioned look. Buick Specials and Centurys used the same roof, but I think the Buick somehow managed to pull it off a bit better. Maybe the larger rear wheel openings, and bolder fins helped?
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Re: Spotted an old Hudson [andre1969] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 01, 2009 (7:57 am)
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Re: Spotted an old Hudson [andre1969] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 01, 2009 (7:58 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 01, 2009 7:32 am)

I think stylists took a huge leap from the dowdy and drab cars of 1954 (especially in the entry-level makes) to The Clean Sheet of 1955 (the first consistently modern-looking and technically advanced cars after WW II), and then with that momentum they tried to outdo themselves every year. Well, as you can imagine, at that level of intensity and change, you'd soon go from classic clean to highly stylish to grotesque in a red hot minute. And by 1958, that's what happened.
 
It's not ALL BAD. Even when designers went over the top, there was a *vitality* to car design that we don't see as much today---now and then we do, but not at the ferocious pace of the mid 50s IMO.
 
1955 brought luxury, style and technology to the "common man". A great year for cars--perhaps the most defining year *ever* in automotive styling.
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Re: Spotted an old Hudson [andre1969] by imidazol97
Nov 01, 2009 (8:04 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 01, 2009 7:32 am)

>'57 Oldsmobiles was that 3-piece rear window that they used.
 
Was the 3-piece rear window a throwback to an earlier car which used that pattern of rear window? I keep thinking it was to give the car a halo of elegance by association with an earlier car model that was luxury with a 3-piece rear window.
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. by fintail
Nov 01, 2009 (9:02 am)
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Today I saw one of the new style Ladas on the road, German plates, actually moving about 150 km/h on the Autobahn. Homely thing.
 
I also saw a 2CV on a country road, a Daewoo Lanos, and a Hyundai Pony.
 
And the highlight, spotted on another country road, a SWB Quattro, like this:
 

 
In the same area, not far from the Czech border, I also saw some kind of classic auto dismantler. Piles of body parts, including roof sections for fintails and pontons. I don't know what good those could do.
 
On another subject, I have noticed Germans will tow anything with anything. Tow a gigantic camping trailer with a Mondeo? No problem. Tow a wrecked 911 with an old W124 coupe? No problem. Tow a horse trailer with a Focus wagon (I'm not kidding)? No problem.

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