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#17669 of 18035 Re: media in cars [boomchek] by berri Oct 20, 2009 (5:18 pm)
Replying to: boomchek (Oct 20, 2009 1:50 pm) I think people liked cassettes even after CDs first came out because you could easily dub and copy them. Its only in the past decade that computer software that could easily accomodate this effort came about. The earlier stuff was somewhat complicated for an average computer user to use. I like to burn customized CDs from my music, but I usually make an extra copy in case the original gets damaged so I don't have to go through all that original recording effort again. Honestly, I wouldn't mind a car unit that had both cassette and CD since I still have a lot of old stuff on tape. IMO the fullness of an old LP fidelity comes out better in analog tape than the compressed world of digital, but then given all the noise while driving a car its probably academic and I'll admit using Dolby technology to reduce tape hiss also uses a bit of compression. But heck, we replaced $5 LP albums with $9 cassettes and then $12-14 CDs, so why not spend a bundle of fixed cost on a hard drive or I-pod instead.
#17670 of 18035 Re: big buick 2 door [andys120] by imidazol97 Oct 20, 2009 (5:21 pm)
Replying to: andys120 (Oct 20, 2009 5:07 pm)   Replies to this message: berri (Oct 20, 2009 5:31 pm)
#17671 of 18035 Re: big buick 2 door [imidazol97] by berri Oct 20, 2009 (5:31 pm)
Replying to: imidazol97 (Oct 20, 2009 5:21 pm) The downsized cars are hard to differentiate given the similar looks. I'll guess around a 79 Buick Lesabre 4 dr and maybe an 83 coupe version? I remember GM's love affair with glued on trim pieces that fell off after a couple of years like on that sedan.
#17672 of 18035 Re: big buick 2 door [andys120] by texases Oct 20, 2009 (5:44 pm)
Replying to: andys120 (Oct 20, 2009 5:07 pm) Those Cragers were odd ducks - alloy centers staked into steel rims. They were average quality, if they weren't lined up right on the tire machine it was easy to crack the alloy right next to the center opening...don't ask
#17673 of 18035 Re: big buick 2 door [andys120] by andre1969 Oct 21, 2009 (2:44 am)
Replying to: andys120 (Oct 20, 2009 5:07 pm) Nah, they're most likely 15", but it might have larger-than-stock tires on it, which will make the wheel look smaller. And they might only be 15x6 wheels, rather than 15x7. Even though the diameter is the same, a wider wheel still helps fill out the wheel well better, essentially widening the track and making the sidewalls of the tire appear more filled-out, rather than rounded off. Also, that coupe looks like it's sitting a little high to me. As far as I know, GM never put a 14" rim on these cars. However, Ford put 14" rims as standard equipment on the similar-vintage Crown Vic and Grand Marquis, and they look REALLY tiny on a car that size!   IIRC, the Cragars, if it's what I'm thinking of, actually look a little more like a Pontiac Rally II wheel, with the spoke part being much more pronounced.   There was another style of Buick rally wheel from that era I really liked. It was this style, which seemed to be used mainly on Electras and wagons. When I had my grandmother's '85 LeSabre, I wanted to get a set of these for it, but never got around to it.
#17675 of 18035 Wheels by imidazol97 Oct 21, 2009 (2:56 am)
The Craig's car still looks like the tires are bigger than original and the car sits up too high.   But when I looked at the barn car, it sits high also while the tires look smaller than the Craigslist car.   I called the wheels Cragar as a generic term from long ago. It's apparently the wrong term. I wonder if the Craigslist car wheels are factory? I couldn't find any pictures to support that tenet. But it's like the center spoking of the wheels is smaller proportionally than the whole rim   Maybe the wheel wells are extra large in size to allow for sharp wheel turns and that looks different to me. Replies to this message: andre1969 (Oct 21, 2009 4:02 am)
#17676 of 18035 the coupe wheels.... by ghulet Oct 21, 2009 (3:56 am)
....appear to be factory Buick mags, nothing out of the ordinary, though they were optional, I think on RWD Regal/Century/LeSabre/Electras. That sedan (two-tone, no hubcaps, missing trim) is an '83 (I cheated and found the exact same photo on google).
#17677 of 18035 Re: Wheels [imidazol97] by andre1969 Oct 21, 2009 (4:02 am)
Replying to: imidazol97 (Oct 21, 2009 2:56 am) I couldn't find any pictures to support that tenet. But it's like the center spoking of the wheels is smaller proportionally than the whole rim   I think that center spoking definitely creates an optical illusion. The eye tends to focus mainly on the spokes and the black part, and that makes the wheel itself look appear smaller.   Maybe the wheel wells are extra large in size to allow for sharp wheel turns and that looks different to me.   For their size, those B-bodies were pretty nimble. Turning circle was something like 38.7 feet. When the shrunken FWD C- and H-models came out, they actually had a slightly larger turning circle! And now today, with transverse engines and the big wheels that are in vogue, I'm sure that turning circles have only gotten worse. Even a Honda Civic has a turning circle of 35.4 feet. Not too impressive for the size of the car.

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