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Re: Fintail: [Mr_Shiftright]: [jrosasmc] by fintail
Jul 09, 2009 (1:27 pm)
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Replying to: jrosasmc (Jul 09, 2009 12:20 pm)

I think all 560s are good - I am unaware of any major mechanical differences from 1986-89. The emissions problems hit 450SLs from the mid 70s (surprise surprise) and the timing chain issues were on early 80s 380SLs - and I believe most of those have been remedied now.
 
Those chrome fender trim pieces are either rust concealers, or rust nests. Seeing wheels from a R129 etc on an old car just looks poserfied. The cars need to be pretty stock. Factory chrome wheels are about as much as they can take.
 
560SL is easily the superior R107 and I can't really say anything bad about them. HVAC will be iffy...but it's an old MB, most of them are that way.
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and of course.... by ghulet
Jul 09, 2009 (3:24 pm)
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.....they use a ton of gas, but you probably knew that already.
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Re: cars without air... [ghulet] by explorerx4
Jul 09, 2009 (4:15 pm)
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Replying to: ghulet (Jul 08, 2009 11:59 am)

back in the 70's, the big concern was 'global cooling'.
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funny thing... by explorerx4
Jul 09, 2009 (4:26 pm)
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my wife and i used to work for the CT motor vehicle dept.
we got letter stating we had to get our mustang emissons tested by 7/20 before we could renew the registration.
i called our insurance guy and put the coverage back on, so i could burn off the old gas and put some fresh stuff in it. still working on it.
in the mean time, my wife sent in the renewal paperwork with a check, and we got a new registration in the mail today.
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Re: cars without air... [andre1969] by kyfdx HOST
Jul 09, 2009 (4:34 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 09, 2009 4:21 am)

I didn't get my first car with air until I was age 32.. And, that didn't really count, because it was a 911 Targa.. which only puts out A/C through the two center vents.. Each of them about the size of... hmmm.. something really, really small..
 
Didn't get a car with any real A/C, until I married my wife... That was in 1993.. and was a 1990 Nissan. (her car, not mine).
 
Even now, I'm a windows down kind of driver..
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Re: and of course.... [ghulet] by fintail
Jul 09, 2009 (5:44 pm)
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Replying to: ghulet (Jul 09, 2009 3:24 pm)

It still makes me laugh that my E55 gets only slightly worse mileage in town than my old 6cyl W126, and it gets decently better mileage on the highway.
 
A V8 R107 will be a pig, but I bet a 560 is better than the older cars.
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Re: cars without air... [kyfdx] by fintail
Jul 09, 2009 (5:45 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jul 09, 2009 4:34 pm)

I don't turn on the air until it is 80 or so (warm for these parts).
 
MB AC won't win any awards.
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Re: cars without air... [andre1969] by toomanyfumes
Jul 09, 2009 (6:10 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 09, 2009 4:21 am)

My dad bought a '76 Cutlass Supreme brand new, ordered it, and specified "no air conditioning". He had never had it in a car, figured it to be another thing to break, and wanted nothing of it. Back when you could order options one at a time, you could get some wierd combos. That car also had a AM radio with a fader and rear speakers.
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Re: cars without air... [toomanyfumes] by imidazol97
Jul 09, 2009 (6:16 pm)
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Replying to: toomanyfumes (Jul 09, 2009 6:10 pm)

>Back when you could order options one at a time,
 
I ordered a Mustang. V8 but with air conditioning yet with a manual instead of automatic. Worse was no 4-speed, just a three-speed. Dealer thought it was a real poor combination. It was a fancy coupe model.
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I miss those days.... by ghulet
Jul 09, 2009 (7:00 pm)
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....I know it's far cheaper and easier to offer models with specific equipment and 'packages', but some are quite irritating (like when you must order a spoiler to get a sunroof, you can't have leather if you want a manual transmission, etc.). GM's were particularly random; my '71 Buick had power windows and seat, AM/FM, tilt but no power locks and no cruise; my '77 Chevy was the exact opposite (power locks and cruise, AM/FM 8-track, F41 suspension, air, nothing else). Kinda fun to see the combos now on eBay.
 
As for cars with no air, in general it doesn't bother me, since even in the cars I've had with factory air, it's worked intermittently or not at all. Now our only vehicle is no a/c, so it's always a luxury to ride in one that has it. Problem is, I think people get too used to it and use it when not necessary, so then it becomes mandatory.
 
Back to those W116s...I'm pretty sure the 280S was only sold here for a year or two (not after 1975); the 280SE was a whole lot better, but I've never been crazy about that body style (they haven't aged well aesthetically or physically) and their seat foam in particular tended to rot away. Now that others are so cheap (190Es, W124s and 126s), I can't see why anyone would bother.

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