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Re: Fintail: [fintail] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jul 09, 2009 (7:08 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 08, 2009 5:48 pm)

Not a great car, the 1975 280S. It had a very bad reputation and proved highly troublesome. Balky carbs, anemic AC, poor gas mileage, middling acceleration. Not a car I'd recommend to anyone, and certainly not anything Detroit was afraid of.
 
Get yourself either a 60s/early 70s Benz for the styling, minimal emissions controls, and rugged dependability, or an 80s Benz and get all the improvements of better technology top to bottom.
 
You don't see the 75 280S because they are all in the wrecking yard, to be blunt about it.
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Re: Fintail: [Mr_Shiftright] by fintail
Jul 09, 2009 (7:58 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 09, 2009 7:08 am)

I don't disagree with that. Build quality was excellent, but driveability was not the highest, and with the horrible DOT bumpers they look pretty silly too. If one wants a W116, seek a very early small bumper car, or that elusive genuinely nice Euro model.
 
5 grand will still buy a decent W108 or even an acceptable fintail. These aren't expensive toys. Or for a driver, a well kept W126 or W124 can't be beat - the same high build quality, but they can drive in modern traffic every day.
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Re: Fintail: [Mr_Shiftright]: by jrosasmc
Jul 09, 2009 (12:20 pm)
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Speaking of older Benz series, for a driver, I would also go for a well-kept R107, but it would likely have to be any 560SL from 1986-89. I always loved the stock looks of the last models - and I especially hate it when I see an example 'pimped' out with tacky-looking wheels, fender trim and what-not.
 
Fintail, you'd know this better than me - by 1988 and '89, the final two years of the 560, were all the bugs worked out of the car? (Those concerning emissions systems, bad timing chains, etc.) I will see an occasional example pop up on Ebay with 150k+ miles on it and it will still look amazing. I'd imagine the a/c is still bad on them, though, as the R107 wasn't really designed for it.
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Re: Fintail: [Mr_Shiftright]: [jrosasmc] by fintail
Jul 09, 2009 (1:27 pm)
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Replying to: jrosasmc (Jul 09, 2009 12:20 pm)

I think all 560s are good - I am unaware of any major mechanical differences from 1986-89. The emissions problems hit 450SLs from the mid 70s (surprise surprise) and the timing chain issues were on early 80s 380SLs - and I believe most of those have been remedied now.
 
Those chrome fender trim pieces are either rust concealers, or rust nests. Seeing wheels from a R129 etc on an old car just looks poserfied. The cars need to be pretty stock. Factory chrome wheels are about as much as they can take.
 
560SL is easily the superior R107 and I can't really say anything bad about them. HVAC will be iffy...but it's an old MB, most of them are that way.
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and of course.... by ghulet
Jul 09, 2009 (3:24 pm)
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.....they use a ton of gas, but you probably knew that already.
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Re: cars without air... [ghulet] by explorerx4
Jul 09, 2009 (4:15 pm)
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Replying to: ghulet (Jul 08, 2009 11:59 am)

back in the 70's, the big concern was 'global cooling'.
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funny thing... by explorerx4
Jul 09, 2009 (4:26 pm)
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my wife and i used to work for the CT motor vehicle dept.
we got letter stating we had to get our mustang emissons tested by 7/20 before we could renew the registration.
i called our insurance guy and put the coverage back on, so i could burn off the old gas and put some fresh stuff in it. still working on it.
in the mean time, my wife sent in the renewal paperwork with a check, and we got a new registration in the mail today.
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Re: cars without air... [andre1969] by kyfdx HOST
Jul 09, 2009 (4:34 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 09, 2009 4:21 am)

I didn't get my first car with air until I was age 32.. And, that didn't really count, because it was a 911 Targa.. which only puts out A/C through the two center vents.. Each of them about the size of... hmmm.. something really, really small..
 
Didn't get a car with any real A/C, until I married my wife... That was in 1993.. and was a 1990 Nissan. (her car, not mine).
 
Even now, I'm a windows down kind of driver..
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Re: and of course.... [ghulet] by fintail
Jul 09, 2009 (5:44 pm)
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Replying to: ghulet (Jul 09, 2009 3:24 pm)

It still makes me laugh that my E55 gets only slightly worse mileage in town than my old 6cyl W126, and it gets decently better mileage on the highway.
 
A V8 R107 will be a pig, but I bet a 560 is better than the older cars.
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Re: cars without air... [kyfdx] by fintail
Jul 09, 2009 (5:45 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jul 09, 2009 4:34 pm)

I don't turn on the air until it is 80 or so (warm for these parts).
 
MB AC won't win any awards.

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