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Re: Borgward? [fintail] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jul 08, 2009 (8:36 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 08, 2009 8:24 am)

I've driven them, even worked on a couple of them. They were very well-made cars.
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Re: Borgward? [Mr_Shiftright] by bumpy
Jul 08, 2009 (10:34 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 08, 2009 7:59 am)

I read some website which alleged that Borgward (the company) went under when a German bank called in its loans at the behest of some friends-of-friends over at M-B who didn't like the prospect of competition for the fintail.
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Re: Borgward? [bumpy] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jul 08, 2009 (11:22 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Jul 08, 2009 10:34 am)

Sounds like one of those conspiracy theories that makes no sense. M-B was a lot stronger company than Borgward, Lloyd and Hansa. It would be like a 60s General Motors trying to bankrupt Studebaker. I mean, why bother?
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. by andre1969
Jul 08, 2009 (11:32 am)
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Here's a really nicely preserved 1976 Grand Prix. Too bad they didn't pick a nicer one to preserve though...I imagine this one was about as cheap as it got. I don't think I've ever seen that a car with that dashboard (same as my '76 Grand LeMans) not equipped with a/c...looks odd with the vent covers.
 
I'm not sure, but I think the 350-2bbl might have actually been a credit option on the Grand Prix in '76!
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Re: . [andre1969] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jul 08, 2009 (11:35 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 08, 2009 11:32 am)

Price is totally batso crazy. $7000 would be a home run with bases loaded in the last game of the series.
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Re: . [Mr_Shiftright] by andre1969
Jul 08, 2009 (11:51 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 08, 2009 11:35 am)

Yeah, that's about what I figured. Cars like that always amaze me though...why someone would pay good money for a car, only to horde it away all those years and not use it. And it seems a fair number of 70's and 80's cars like that turn up. Maybe it's because they were so awful to drive, their owners just gave up and put them in storage!
 
For some reason, this poor rat of a '77 LeMans caught my eye. Maybe it's because I drove my '76 to work today. Anyway, I'm guessing this one might be good for about $500-600...if it runs? The one upside to this one is that it somehow managed to dodge a bullet on the assembly line, getting fitted with a Chevy 305 rather than a Pontiac 301.
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yesterday.... by ghulet
Jul 08, 2009 (11:55 am)
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.....two sort of oddballs: a Cadillac XLR, burgandy, very nice (this may not be odd, but in my neighborhood, you don't see them); great looking car, though I have to wonder how much is being discounted off MSRP ($86-91k!!!!) right now.
 
The other was a white Peugeot 505 STX 2.8i (the V6) in really nice condition. I have to wonder who (and why, and with whose cooperation) has kept this thing on the road, I don't imagine parts or labor are easy to come by.
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cars without air... by ghulet
Jul 08, 2009 (11:59 am)
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....I'll never understand; I remember as a kid, one of my aunt's friends had a Caprice coupe (77) with power windows, locks, seat, tilt wheel....and factory NO air. Huh? My partner's Jeep Wrangler also has no a/c, though that's a bit more understandable because of the type of vehicle, but hard to overlook. I have bad memories of going to July weddings in a suit, sweating my ass off. Ugh.
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Re: yesterday.... [ghulet] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jul 08, 2009 (12:11 pm)
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Replying to: ghulet (Jul 08, 2009 11:55 am)

You should be able to buy a 2007-2008 low miles XLR for around $45,000 right now-- so about half of MSRP or less. A 2006 that's miled up, under $30,000.
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Re: yesterday.... [Mr_Shiftright] by texases
Jul 08, 2009 (12:18 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 08, 2009 12:11 pm)

So much for the 'rebirth of Cadillac'...what do they have? XLR is DOA, same with STS and Escalade. The SRX Mk II doesn't appear too interesting. What's that leave? The CTS, a good car, but not enough for the whole division!

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