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Re: Sighted [lokki] by andre1969
Jul 05, 2009 (5:43 am)
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Replying to: lokki (Jul 05, 2009 5:20 am)

Good lord, it looks like they offered just about every color under the sun in 1970! Here's a Dodge paint chart from that year
 
They had SIX shades of green that year! There was a light green that seemed popular back then, sort of a sage green I think it's called, that I always thought was pretty nice. Probably what Chrysler called the "light green poly", while that olive color was probably the "dark green poly". I wonder what shade of green that Charger with the white roof is? Looks metallic, and emerald to me, and I don't think it really matches up to anything on that paint chart. Of course, sometimes those scanned-in images don't always reflect the true color.
 
I got to experience first-hand what a difference color can make when it comes to heat, when I bought my second '79 New Yorker. It's midnight blue, with a matching cloth interior that's sort of a corduroy pattern, with a bit of vinyl trim in places. My first NYer is light creme, with a matching leather interior. On hot days, the blue one becomes downright brutal, and heats up much more quickly, and much worse, than the creme one. I knew color made some difference, but didn't think it would be THAT noticeable! Still, that's changing the color of everything...body, roof, and interior. I wonder how much of a difference changing just the roof would make?
 
Those old 60's cars (and for all intents and purposes, a '70 Charger is still a 60's car) tended to have better fresh-air ventilation than later cars, what with the vent windows, roll-down rear windows, the big fresh-air vents under the dash, etc. Plus, they weren't sealed as tightly, which probably helped with heat build-up. And I imagine even little details, like the way the side glass curved in so much more on the 70's cars, letting in more of the sun's rays, made a difference. So even with a black roof, something like that Charger might not be too bad.
 
My '68 Dart used to be black, with a black vinyl interior, and I don't remember it being too bad. I was a lot younger back then, though...22 when I bought the car, and 23 when I repainted it back to its original white, so I probably had a higher tolerance for pain back then!
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Re: I like it.... [ghulet] by fintail
Jul 05, 2009 (6:59 am)
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Replying to: ghulet (Jul 05, 2009 1:47 am)

I was actually thinking that was the stock upholstery - the colors went perfectly with the paint, and they sure looked to fit tightly enough to be stock upholstery. It could just be a bad pic. IIRC the rear seats were the same pattern.
 
I think it had PW, yeah...the little cranks are for the wing/vent windows, I think....I remember my Galaxie had normal cranks for the side windows, and small ones for the wing/vent windows. The fintail just has a round dial that is turned to open those windows.
 
I think that car would be a fair enough deal for 2 grand, assuming that it has no major mechanical needs....but if one does a nut and bold restoration, they are still going to be buried alive in it.
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Re: I like it.... [fintail] by andre1969
Jul 05, 2009 (7:05 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 05, 2009 6:59 am)

The upholstery on the seats might just not look right because of the glare from the sun washing it out? I believe the pattern of the fabric should match the fabric that's on the door panels.
 
Sounds like it might be a neat car to have and drive around in for $2K or, hopefully, less. Like Ghulet, I've always had a thing for those big 4-door hardtops. I'd never put any serious money into it though, unless it was a true labor of love.
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Re: I like it.... [andre1969] by fezo
Jul 05, 2009 (12:36 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 05, 2009 7:05 am)

Andre - was flipping trough the channels the other day and came across My Cousin Vinny. (Not that I haven't seen it before.) When they get to the part about whether you could get a Tempest or a Buick in the same color I immediately thought of you and the paint chips....
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Re: I like it.... [andre1969] by fintail
Jul 05, 2009 (3:16 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 05, 2009 7:05 am)

Yeah, I think the seat inserts match the lighter blue part of the door panels, below the darker blue ribbed vinyl.
 
What would that thing have in it, like a 394?
 
I will say I like that color combo a lot...the exterior color reminds me of the "diamond blue" of my old W126...a color that doesn't seem to work well on most modern cars...or it is seen very seldom anyway.
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Re: I like it.... [fintail] by imidazol97
Jul 05, 2009 (3:39 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 05, 2009 3:16 pm)

That car pictures is a Ninety-Eight. But the seats don't match the Ninety-Eight cloth seats. I think they are a seat cover. They also don't match some of the Eighty-Eight's seats. I would guess they are good quality seat cover.
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Re: I like it.... [imidazol97] by fintail
Jul 05, 2009 (4:05 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jul 05, 2009 3:39 pm)

The pattern doesn't look much different from in this brochure (they have vertical lines, just hard to see)...it isn't the best pic, I will admit. I wish I could find a pic of the seatbacks - but I didn't think of it, and the seller isn't big time enough to have a website.
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Re: I like it.... [fintail] by imidazol97
Jul 05, 2009 (6:20 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 05, 2009 4:05 pm)

But the blue car has rib marks in the plastic between the cloth. The one in the brochure does not have that longitudinal rib marking, it's plain. I can see the rectangles in the blue car on the door as in the brochure car. None of the cloth seats, 88's or 98's have that longitudinal rib.
 
We're going to have to ask you to stop by there when the place is open for business and inspect the car for us!
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Re: I like it.... [imidazol97] by fintail
Jul 05, 2009 (7:13 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jul 05, 2009 6:20 pm)

Oh, do you mean the sewn in vertical lines in the middle of the bench seat, in the darker blue vinyl? That didn't even catch my eye til now.
 
The blue car had vertical sewn lines in the inserts like the brochure....the insert cloth also seemed kind of wrinkled, I don't know if that was a factory texture or an age issue.
 
I won't be down there again for about 8 weeks probably...but it might still be there. I'll make an offer on your behalf

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