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Re: . [fintail] by andre1969
Jun 24, 2009 (9:22 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jun 24, 2009 9:11 am)

Actually I kinda like those Ciera coupes, from around 1987 or so, that had the T-bird style roofline. One of those with the 3.8 V-6 might be kinda fun. I don't know how much effort I'd be willing to put forth to relive that kind of flashback, though.
 
For the most part though, with domestics of the 80's, I can usually draw the line at FWD versus RWD. If it's RWD, usually I like it. If it's FWD, not so much.
 
I watched an episode of Newhart last night. George had quit his handyman job and gotten a job selling used cars at some sleazy joint. In the showroom they had a 1985 or so Cavalier. For some reason, they referred to it as a Plymouth!
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I won't drag us through the mud.... by ghulet
Jun 24, 2009 (9:48 am)
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....about Cutlass Cieras too much, but my friend's parents had one in high school that was quite nice: an '86 International Series sedan, burgandy with matching cloth interior. This was Ciera's 'sport model': had the 3.8 V6 (165hp, which was quite a lot back then), nice contoured bucket seats (6-way power driver's), the FE3 suspension and BBS-looking lacy 15" alloys with beefy tires. That car was quite a lot of fun to drive, great acceleration, nice tight steering, handled well, plus it had lots of room for a reasonably mid-sized, not super heavy car. Of course, no airbags or much other heavyish electronic stuff back then (doubt it had ABS). My mom had an '86 Toyota Cressida at the time (same engine as the Supra), which actually felt sluggish off the line compared to the Ciera, though at higher, speeds I think the Cressida was better.
 
Oh yeah, I had hair then too, and weighed about 50 pounds less, but who's counting?
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Re: I won't drag us through the mud.... [ghulet] by andre1969
Jun 24, 2009 (10:09 am)
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Replying to: ghulet (Jun 24, 2009 9:48 am)

One of my grandmother's friends had one of those Ciera International Series sedans as well, and I think it was an '86, too. I remember it having the "FE3" badge on it, and my grandmother's friend saying "that means it's sporty" or something along those lines. It was a light silverish gray with dark gray accents, and it was a pretty sharp looking car, I thought.
 
She moved down to North Carolina awhile back, and I think Grandmom lost contact with her. For all I know, she could still have the car! Before the Ciera, she had an early 70's Maverick, so she tended to hold on to cars for awhile.
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Re: . [andre1969] by fintail
Jun 24, 2009 (10:42 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jun 24, 2009 9:22 am)

Our Ciera wasn't a bad car, but I yawn when I think about it now. It wasn't a 3.8 or any kind of sport pretentions though - plush velour, wire wheel hubcaps, etc.
 
I could live with having a pristine correctly-engined ca. 1980 Eldo or Seville - no vinyl top, wheels instead of hubcaps, nice colors - as an unusual toy, if I had a place to put one after I had the other cars I'd want. Not a lot of 80s domestics are endearing to me. Of course, something like a GNX could be interesting to have around, too. Some 80s T-Birds and Mustangs can be interesting in their own ways too...but they have to be very original and unmessed with.
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Re: I won't drag us through the mud.... [ghulet] by fintail
Jun 24, 2009 (10:44 am)
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Replying to: ghulet (Jun 24, 2009 9:48 am)

That was a period GM trait, wasn't it? Very sensitive throttle that made the cars rocket off the line, but it ran out relatively soon.
 
I like the 82-85 Supra, and the Cressidas were interesting, compared to how boring Toyota has become.
 
In 1986 I was in 4th grade
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Re: . [andre1969] by lemko
Jun 24, 2009 (11:11 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jun 24, 2009 9:22 am)

Andre, isn't that a 1972 Oldsmobile Delta 88 at the beginning of "Newhart?" My brother used to have a crush on Julia Duffy who plays Stephanie on that show. Trivia: the guy that plays George, (Tom Poston) was married to Suzanne Pleshette.
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Re: . [lemko] by andre1969
Jun 24, 2009 (11:20 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jun 24, 2009 11:11 am)

Close, I think it was a '73 Delta 88. The one on Newhart still had the peaks between the headlights, but I think that got toned down compared to '71-72. The one on Newhart also had the taillights in a horizontal pattern. Didn't the '72 have vertical lights...one in the bumper and one above?
 
I believe Bob Newhart has outlived two tv wives now. Didn't the lady who played Joanne die, in addition to Suzanne Pleshette?
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Re: . [andre1969] by bhill2
Jun 24, 2009 (11:45 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jun 24, 2009 11:20 am)

Yeah, Mary Frann. She died about 10 years ago. A real loss; I liked her on the show, although I thought Bob and Suzanne had better chemistry.
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Re: . [andre1969] by lemko
Jun 24, 2009 (12:12 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jun 24, 2009 11:20 am)

1972 Oldsmobile Delta 88
 

 
1973 Oldsmobile Delta 88
 

 
You're right. The 1972 model's taillights remind me of what Chrysler did in 1973.
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Re: . [andre1969] by mp67riv
Jun 24, 2009 (12:16 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jun 24, 2009 9:22 am)

I also thought the Ciera coupes were kinda nice...but I probably wouldn't seek one out for restoration. I am trying to decide what to do with my 83 6000STE. I've owned it since 87, and the body and interior are still reasonably good. It was a neat car in its day, even with FWD. After 170K, the 2.8 HO V6 runs pretty good, though it has a few oil leaks. I'm thinking about swapping the 2.8 for a 3800 and making it a restore project with my 11 year old son. But, first gotta finish the 61 Electra 225...

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