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Re: I believe... [lemko] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jun 17, 2009 (7:16 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jun 17, 2009 6:54 am)

Yeah, the early 80s Ferraris were pretty bogged down. this is one reason they are rather cheap to buy.
 
 Did they say if they tracked the cars, say at max speed for a couple of hours? I'd expect the Ferrari to outlast the van in terms of brakes and suspension.
 
Of course, if you include good looks and sensory perceptions, the Ferrari still wins. I'm sure a suit of armor would wear better than an Italian suit, but.....
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Accord V6 EX-L vs. E350 by hpmctorque
Jun 17, 2009 (2:27 pm)
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We've danced around various comparisons of sports cars versus sedans in recent messages, but at the risk of getting flamed really badly here, I'm wondering how one justifies the price differential between, say, a Mercedes E350 versus a fully optioned Accord V6. I'm not questioning that the E350 is preferable overall, in terms of ride, handling, seat comfort and overall driving experience, but those attributes are offset by the reliability and cost-of-ownership edge the Accord enjoys. Raw performance and space are close to a wash.
 
My conclusion is that one chooses the Mercedes over the Honda if prestige is an important consideration, and/or money either doesn't matter, or doesn't matter much. One other advantage of Mercedes is that they age better than Hondas. A well cared for ten year old Benz can turn heads, whereas a ten year old Honda doesn't, even if well cared for.
 
Conclusion, conclusion: Comparing a three year old E350 to a new Accord evens the score by a fair amount.
 
I'm ducking!
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Re: Accord V6 EX-L vs. E350 [hpmctorque] by fintail
Jun 17, 2009 (7:21 pm)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Jun 17, 2009 2:27 pm)

I think that's actually pretty reasonable.
 
Of course, the V8 models can be had for not much more...and those might give a performance edge.
 
In 2006 I bought a 4 year old 27K mile E55 for the price of a nicely equipped V6 Camcord. The new deluxe family sedan would have its positives, but this way is more fun for me.
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Re: the local chevy dealer closed [Mr_Shiftright] by bob550k
Jun 17, 2009 (9:33 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Mar 01, 2009 7:57 pm)

I saw a Marmon Sixteen over the weekend. Now there's a relic you don't see everyday.
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Re: the local chevy dealer closed [bob550k] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jun 18, 2009 (9:50 am)
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Replying to: bob550k (Jun 17, 2009 9:33 pm)

Yeah! That's one to record in your "bird-watchers" book!
 
Trivia: A Marmon was the car that won the first Indy 500 race. Driver Ray Haroun. Even more trivia. First car ever (possibly) to sport a rear-view mirror.
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Re: the local chevy dealer closed [bob550k] by texases
Jun 18, 2009 (10:12 am)
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Replying to: bob550k (Jun 17, 2009 9:33 pm)

My old cars were much less exciting - three Model As traveling together Tuesday on I-94, must have been on their way to a show. All three looked brand new.
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hey, Andre... by ghulet
Jun 18, 2009 (2:58 pm)
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....I saw a light blue, '74 LeMans coupe today, not in the best condition, teenage driver with new temp plates. Kinda unusual, that would have been a car WE would have bought as teenagers 20-some years ago. I guess the strange thing about it was the rear windows, it had the slatted-variety (like a Grand Am, but I'm 99% certain it was a regular or Grand LeMans). Was this optional or something?
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OK... by ghulet
Jun 18, 2009 (3:16 pm)
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....I now think it was a '75 (had the eggcrate grill, round headlights); perhaps it was a LeMans Sport (hence the louvered rear side windows)?
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Re: OK... [ghulet] by andre1969
Jun 18, 2009 (4:55 pm)
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Replying to: ghulet (Jun 18, 2009 3:16 pm)

Yeah, that sounds like a '75 LeMans. IIRC, the '73-74 had a more horizontal grille for the lesser models, and a vertical treatment for the Luxury LeMans. The Luxury was renamed, Grand LeMans for '75 and had a rather handsome, clean, vertical grille. I always found that eggcrate grille on the lesser '75 LeManses to be a bit garish.
 
IIRC, the Sport Coupe came standard with the louvered rear windows, while the base coupe had the big triangular windows standard, and the louvers optional.
 
Kinda cool to hear of one still roaming the streets.
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I like this.... by ghulet
Jun 18, 2009 (5:58 pm)
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....I know it's probably only worth the money til something catastrophic happens, but interesting history and with 136k miles and pretty nice condition, the price is harmless enough (I also love the velour and how it doesn't wear out in 25 years like leather does). Lastly, the window sticker/build sheet is fascinating:
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/500SEL-Kingdom-of-Saudi-Arabia-Diplomat-Car_W0QQi- - temZ110403518237QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item19b48fff1d&_trksid=p4- - 506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A-2%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

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