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Re: Top-down Goat> [andys120] by andre1969
May 19, 2009 (3:42 pm)
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Replying to: andys120 (May 19, 2009 11:06 am)

Does anyone know a good way to tell a '66 from a '67 at a glance?
 
There's not much difference, but the '66 has a more blacked-out grille, that's divided up into little squares. The '67 has grille inserts that are chromed, and has a diagonal, diamond pattern.
 
In back, the '66 has round backup lights in the bumper, and wide taillights that vaguely suggest an Impala, with three across, three bulbs most likely, but each of the three divided into three slim horizontal strips, for an overall 9x9 pattern. The '67 has rectangular backup lights in the bumper, and the taillights aren't as full-width, more Bel-Air like, two across, each divided into two horizontal strips, for a 2x2 pattern.
 
I also remember a different taillight pattern, that was kind of delta-shaped, like what Dodge was doing in the late 60's, but I think that was just on a cheaper model, like maybe the '66 Tempest? Probably just one bulb on each side.
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Re: . [Mr_Shiftright] by fezo
May 19, 2009 (3:45 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 18, 2009 5:06 pm)

I'm amazed at how low your estimate on the value is but agree with the logic. You could pour money into them all day. It was a fun toy back then.
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On the way back from the mechanic tonite... by andre1969
May 19, 2009 (3:45 pm)
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within about a 5 minute period, I passed an '83-86 T-bird, red, in nice shape, then an '82-86 Bonneville, sort of an off-white/cream color, also in nice shape, and then a gray 1990-92 Caddy Brougham, missing its wheelcovers and with the front bumper bent slightly upward, giving the front-end a bit of a sneer. Lemko would have wept.
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Re: On the way back from the mechanic tonite... [andre1969] by fezo
May 19, 2009 (3:49 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (May 19, 2009 3:45 pm)

With 13 hours to go the Adenauer has cracked $10K and made it up to $10,900. Makes me wonder about all those guys who would put them up for like $30K. No bids I would guess...
 
I sent the listing to my brother who said "Nah, it's an automatic."
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Re: On the way back from the mechanic tonite... [fezo] by fintail
May 19, 2009 (4:00 pm)
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Replying to: fezo (May 19, 2009 3:49 pm)

Was yours a manual? If it was, I have to guess it wasn't fun to shift.
 
I think the auto used in those was a Borg-Warner unit...I think they were durable enough, if maybe unrefined. The MB-designed auto in my fintail is pretty clunky, but I suspect some of that comes from it not having a torque converter.
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Re: . [fezo] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
May 19, 2009 (4:27 pm)
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Replying to: fezo (May 19, 2009 3:45 pm)

It's really not "my" estimate. Buyers set the price of classic cars, and that's what they've been saying about the Adenauer for decades....$10K--$20K if you want to sell it, ask $30K if you want to keep it and fool the wife that you tried to sell it.
 
I think one ride around the block and you'd say "thanks but no thanks". You get lots of looks and thumbs up, and maybe that's worth $20K for sure, but the "driving experience" leaves a lot to be desired. Of course, if you like that kind of "slow tank" feeling, might just be your ticket. I wouldn't try any tricks in it though.
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Re: On the way back from the mechanic tonite... [fintail] by fezo
May 19, 2009 (4:28 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (May 19, 2009 4:00 pm)

Mine was a four on the column. I loved it. Didn't know any better at the time. Compared to a modern clutch this was like trying to drive a house but at the time the alternative was my mom's 66 Biscayne and that clutch was no better.
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Re: On the way back from the mechanic tonite... [fezo] by fintail
May 19, 2009 (5:01 pm)
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Replying to: fezo (May 19, 2009 4:28 pm)

I've only ever driven a column shift manual on a 68 Fairlane my dad picked up in the mid 90s...the 3 on the tree combined with with manual steering and manual brakes in a car that didn't feel as light as it looked (relative to larger models) was not a relaxing driving experience. I was only about 17 when he had it too, that couldn't have helped.
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Re: On the way back from the mechanic tonite... [fintail] by fezo
May 19, 2009 (6:25 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (May 19, 2009 5:01 pm)

Clutches back then were real pieces of work. Driving a full sized Ford from that era with no power assist is no fun. My dad had a 70 Ford Custom with no power steering and no power brakes. It was a real workout to drive! He had a 71 Galaxie 500 with the power and if you sneezed you'd drive off the road. There was no middle ground with Ford in those days.
 
I've never forgiven my older brother who at 17 thought the clutch on my grandfather's old 49 Buick was too hard. As a result my folks sold it for $50. Dang!
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Re: On the way back from the mechanic tonite... [fezo] by fintail
May 19, 2009 (7:30 pm)
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Replying to: fezo (May 19, 2009 6:25 pm)

I remember the clutch on that Fairlane was iffy, I would slip it a lot. I think it was out of adjustment though. That car was a beast to drive, but my dad with his old school tendencies grew fond of it. It was a ca. 70K mile car he bought out of an estate for something like $600. He drove it for awhile and flipped it...didn't make much, but it was a hobby for him. At the same time he had a very clean 60 Ford Country Sedan, a photogenic red and white car bought for $300 because the owner couldn't get it started. It had a coil problem...easy fix, and the big old 352 fired right up. He used it as a daily driver and loved it. He then randomly decided to sell it and regretted that from then on. It sold about 4 hours after he put it on the market, and made a decent profit.
 
I remember that overboosted steering on my 66 Galaxie. I also remember how stiff it would get when that thing would stall, which was too often.

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