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Re: Ebay time [fintail] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 15, 2008 (9:55 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Nov 15, 2008 9:18 am)

You should congratulate him. That was about the most expensive engine swap in collector car history!
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Re: Ebay time [fintail] by boomchek
Nov 15, 2008 (10:14 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Nov 14, 2008 6:35 pm)

I like the cars in the background of the Dusie pictures. My garage should look like that.
 
The Lancia looks rough but neat. So does that aluminium Daimler.
 
The Celica is nice too. I don't think that run of the mill Japanese cars like these will ever fetch high numbers in the future. To every car person they're pretty much economy cars and nothing more. Not sure if I'd lust after one.
 
Desoto Firedome: I like the pictures. I tried to copy one or tow but they're copyright protected Otherwise, eys nice resto. The panel gaps in it are really off though, were cars built like that in the 50s? Was that the norm?
 
Supercharged Seville: You wonder why there's no bids? $70k to build? I'd stop at $5k and cut my losses.
 
Sellers of the New Yorker also have an awesome collection. Everything looks like new from a distance. It would be neat to see and drive them. Like toy companies always say: "Collect'em all!!"
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Re: Ebay time [texases] by explorerx4
Nov 15, 2008 (3:05 pm)
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Replying to: texases (Nov 14, 2008 7:35 pm)

in fairness it says that it was built for a movie.
they haven't changed much over the years.
 
is this a good deal?
 
barn find
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Re: Ebay time [explorerx4] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 15, 2008 (4:55 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Nov 15, 2008 3:05 pm)

'72 BMW 3.0 CS -- No, price is way too high by nearly double. Not a prayer of selling it. No need to look at it, even a $150,000 restoration would probably not bring that price. Ask $25,000, take $20,000 in a red hot minute in today's market, would be my fatherly advice. These cars are a tough sell in the best of times. Most come back from auctions unsold.
 
38 Packard -- neat old car but it's a 4-door and it's an 8 not a 12. I'd say $12,500 is all the money, but depending on how he advertises and sells it, he might get a bit more. It is a CCCA classic though, he's right but it needs everything and everything costs much more than what the car is worth. So I'd clean it up, get it running and drive it--if the price was cheap enough.
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Re: Ebay time [Mr_Shiftright] by explorerx4
Nov 15, 2008 (5:29 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 15, 2008 4:55 pm)

i knew the CS was priced off the planet.
surprised that it is on the local craigs.
had no idea about the packard, but there have been plenty of worse cars for sale.
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Re: Ebay time [explorerx4] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 15, 2008 (5:51 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Nov 15, 2008 5:29 pm)

Packard---well old barn finds are going to need brakes, tires, probably some electrical, front end work no doubt, exhaust system and sounds like a valve job---so there's plenty to do even if you don't attempt any cosmetic restoration. You should be able to buy this car all clean and shiny for the price he is asking.
 
I saw a very decent '37 LaSalle for sale for $12,000 and that's a comparable.
 
Oh, BTW, that year Packard still has wood in the body, so you know what THAT means.
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Re: Ebay time [explorerx4] by texases
Nov 15, 2008 (6:50 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Nov 15, 2008 3:05 pm)

"in fairness it says that it was built for a movie."
 
Well, it hasn't been built yet. This is just a Unimog, not a hybrid:
 
"This 404 is being built for a film called "Out of Gas". This is a unique auction in that your purchase of this vehicle will be part of the film, as will the construction of the Diesel-Electric Hybrid system that will go into this Unimog. "
 
So it won't become a hybrid until someone buys it, then they get to be part of a movie...just sounds kind of odd. Who pays for the conversion? I assume the movie makers, but that's not clear. Given how many batteries a plug in Prius uses, imagine what it'll take to move this beast! And that other one you had was $15k, not $110k...helping to pay for the movie?
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Re: Ebay time [Mr_Shiftright] by andre1969
Nov 16, 2008 (10:02 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 15, 2008 9:55 am)

You should congratulate him. That was about the most expensive engine swap in collector car history!
 
I know this isn't nearly as sacreligious of an engine swap, but back in the early 70's, my Dad blew up the engine on one of his cars. I think it was his '62 Corvette, but it might have been his '64 GTO. Well, my Granddad put another engine in for him, just some generic, boat-anchor Chevy 400.
 
I guess if it's any consolation, that '57 Bonneville was just a used car back in the 60's. Nobody ever thought about the possibility of it being a collectible 40-50 years into the future.. Sure, the engine swap ultimately hurt its value, but probably saved the car in the long run. I imagine most people would have just junked the car at that point.
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Re: Ebay time [andre1969] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Nov 16, 2008 (11:12 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 16, 2008 10:02 am)

the '62 Corvette engine swap would be a bigger mistake than a '64 GTO engine swap but neither one is catastrophic, and that can be corrected. But re-stamping a date correct Pontian block from '57 and finding the fuel injection and all the little other bits, well good luck...you will pay through the nose in the elephant sense of the term.
 
I suspect that in 1957 most people with fuelies knew that they had something unusual.
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. by fintail
Nov 16, 2008 (6:16 pm)
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I saw a 1961 Imperial convertible driving eastbound on I90 today. Those have to be pretty rare today. It was yellow with a black top. Maybe the pinnacle of Exner's weirdness - the standup headlights with big odd fins.
 
I also saw a tectite grey W210 E320 with sport package - uncommon, and a black W210 E55 AMG.

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