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Re: Today [fintail][Mr_Shiftright]--Correction [hpmctorque] by fintail
Aug 02, 2008 (8:47 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Aug 02, 2008 6:21 am)

W210s got better with time. The earlier years almost seem to be a beta-test by MB, and they have electrical glitches, especially in engine management. As with older cars, the powertrains are solid, but various sensors are known failure issues, and of course rear window regulators, as is common on MB for decades. These cars had more gadgets than a W124, with the maintenance needs to follow. Another issue on early W210s is rust, if the car has been neglected in a harsh winter climate. Some suspension components will rust and break with alarming severity (spring perch) and some of the body can bubble too - unacceptable in a modern car. These issues seem to strike most in pre 1998-99 models. Some of the interior materials also don't seem as good as the old days, but I will say the W211 seems even cheaper inside than the W210, I have read many statements about W211 build quality falling from the W210 (which fell from the W124). The W210 was the first "new style" MB, with the negatives and positives that come along. They are comfortable cars, are relatively economical, and can be had for little money today.
 
I would recommend a late W210 over an early W211. Although they have both lost a lot of value, the W210 will still be significantly cheaper even if only a year older, and it is no less reliable.
 
I own a W210, an E55 from the last few months of W210 production. It's well put together, the upgraded interior is very nice, and of course the tuned V8 is fun.
 
That diesel you mention sounds like an exceptional car - good colors and options, and the history sounds ideal . The diesels and AMG cars tend to have less issues, in my experience anyway. The diesel engines have less electrical issues I think, and back then the AMG cars were still assembled at a seperate facility.
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Re: Ebay time [fintail] by boomchek
Aug 02, 2008 (10:30 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Aug 01, 2008 5:37 pm)

Nice collection this week. I like the Electra, and that white Wagon, especially the story behind it how it was stored for 28 years with survival supplies in case of a nuclear war.
 
As for the Peugeot truck, the guy has other cool rides on his site that he ledns out for films and tv, but not for sale. Check them out .
 
and the rat rod is cool too. I like rat rods, but that one is too much finished for my tastes. I'd like one with flat black paint, or rusty colored metal, unpainted.
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Re: Today [fintail] by hpmctorque
Aug 02, 2008 (11:02 am)
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Thanks, fintail. You answered all my questions with just the details I was looking for.
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Re: Ebay time [fintail] by andys120
Aug 02, 2008 (11:46 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Aug 01, 2008 5:37 pm)

-'62 Tempest Kustom - That thing is cool, it shows real imagination and flair in it's use of components from many different cars. With different wheels,paint, cycle fenders and a sexier windshield you'd have an awesome street rod.
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Re: Ebay time [boomchek] by fintail
Aug 02, 2008 (11:47 am)
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Replying to: boomchek (Aug 02, 2008 10:30 am)

Wow, that's quite a collection...kind of surprising to see it exists as one can often see inaccurate cars in so many movies
 
And hpmctorque - if you buy one of those cars and it turns out to be a headache, don't look at me! ...of course, if it turns out to be awesome, I'll be more than happy to take credit.
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Re: Ebay time (fintail) by hpmctorque
Aug 02, 2008 (1:56 pm)
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"if you buy one of those cars and it turns out to be a headache, don't look at me! ...of course, if it turns out to be awesome, I'll be more than happy to take credit."
 
I know full well that with used cars you win some and you lose some. I know your statements were tongue-in-cheek, at least somewhat, but, again, the info you provided hit the bulls eye, in terms of what I wanted to know. I have confidence in your opinions, and Shifty's. If I bought one and it was disappointing, well, hey, that risk is factored into the depreciation.
 
My situation is such that I don't NEED another car right now, but if I came across a really nice, well maintained E300 I'd consider it. I prefer to buy one owner cars from private parties who've kept maintenance records. That limits the number of offerings, but it gives me greater confidence about knowing what I'm buying. Dealers throw away all records, including the owners manual, for liability reasons, I guess. If I were in a hurry, I'd check out the dealers, but I'm not. Cars with above average mileage don't scare me, if I have the sense that they've been well maintained and driven with reasonable care.
 
I checked Craigslist today but there weren't any E300s in my area that I'd seriously consider.
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Re: Ebay time (fintail) by hpmctorque
Aug 02, 2008 (2:10 pm)
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Incidentally, the new E Class cars are really nice, but they have many more features than I want in a car. That's more or less true of all luxury brands, at least the ones sold in North America, and it's only getting worse. That's one of the reasons why I generally prefer the older ones.
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Re: Ebay time (fintail) [hpmctorque] by fintail
Aug 02, 2008 (5:28 pm)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Aug 02, 2008 1:56 pm)

If you get a car with all records of necessary work being done, and you then take care of it, you will probably be OK, especially if you choose a diesel like that one you mentioned. I know that you realize regular maintenance will be both more thorough and more expensive than on a "normal" car - but these things drive pretty well, so that's the price you pay.
 
I think the modern cars are becoming a bit overburdened with features too. The W210 is like a W124 compared to the current W211. MB purists will say this is not what MB is supposed to be about, oftentimes pointless technology. The advent of Lexus scared MB into this new role, IMO.
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And NOW...for something completely different! by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Aug 02, 2008 (6:22 pm)
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http://ladaparts.ru/hotrods.php
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Re: And NOW...for something completely different! [Mr_Shiftright] by fintail
Aug 02, 2008 (6:52 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Aug 02, 2008 6:22 pm)

Ah, I remember that...I forget the name of the guys who made it. That hardtop is pretty sharp, but from what I remember it is not based on a real Volga, but on body panels made to look like one.

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