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Re: Today [fintail][Mr_Shiftright] [hpmctorque] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Aug 01, 2008 (8:08 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Jul 31, 2008 8:28 pm)

I think the 300E was a pretty good car from what I remember. The other models are rather obscure and I don't know much about them.
 
of course, it is a Benz so it's going to nickel and dime you, no getting around that. These are the types of cars where you never ever buy a "fixer-upper". You buy the cleanest, nicest, lowest miled one you can afford to own.
  
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Re: Today [fintail][Mr_Shiftright] [hpmctorque] by fintail
Aug 01, 2008 (9:42 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Jul 31, 2008 8:28 pm)

The W124 was the last of the real old fashioned MB, overengineered but not laden with technology for the sake of technology. It was also a great platform, used for everything from an elegant convertible to an AWD wagon and everything inbetween. It was also a very safe car.
 
The M103 I6 as seen in most 300E cars is a smooth and durable unit, not too powerful (180hp I think) but it can move the car along as they aren't as heavy as a modern car. The engines can also take a lot of mileage if maintained, but they do seem to like value adjustments or work at maybe 250K miles, even with proper maintenance. It was replaced by a DOHC I6 for a couple years that bumped up the power a bit, but was still durable. There was also a 2.8l 300E that developed less power. Powertrains on these cars are solid, electrical glitches and HVAC issues are the main problem areas, I think. I wouldn't call them unreliable, they just need more TLC than a Corolla. If that is ignored, the cars will fail.
 
If I was to choose a V8 car it would be a 500E, and those still cost...however a I6 car should be just fine for most people.
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Re: The old girl with a friend. [seminole_kev] by fintail
Aug 01, 2008 (9:44 am)
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Replying to: seminole_kev (Aug 01, 2008 5:07 am)

Nice shot, I had a random event like that with my fintail a while ago...I will have to dig up the pic.
 
The Jag isn't huge, so one can see how tiny a Mini really is.
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Re: The old girl with a friend. [fintail] by seminole_kev
Aug 01, 2008 (9:47 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Aug 01, 2008 9:44 am)

Yeah, I thought about advertising it as the Worlds Smallest British Car Show..........but I think the sign costs would have been greater than ticket revenue.
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Re: Today [fintail][Mr_Shiftright] by hpmctorque
Aug 01, 2008 (12:50 pm)
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Thanks regarding the 300E info.
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1967 Dart hardtop... by andre1969
Aug 01, 2008 (4:57 pm)
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spotted in the parking lot tonite, outside the grocery store. It was antique white, similar to my Dart, and a bit rough around the edges, but still cool to see something like that still plying the streets.
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Ebay time by fintail
Aug 01, 2008 (5:37 pm)
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Send it back to England
 
For large families
 
As odd as it gets
 
Sharp Z
 
The little wide car
 
Wow
 
Beast
 
Homely
 
Low miles R
 
Uh-oh, someone restored a fintail...burning the money would be more efficient, but I like those tires
 
"rare and beautiful"
 
This is cool
 
442 of a different era
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Re: Ebay time [fintail] by imidazol97
Aug 01, 2008 (6:00 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Aug 01, 2008 5:37 pm)

The red and white 442 caught my attention. I had to read that twice. It has a 260 cu. in. motor. I didn't recall that was offered in the Olds. I have some reviewing to do. Seems awful small. My 77 had the 350 quadrajet motor.
 
The 73 Electra is great.
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Re: Ebay time [fintail] by andre1969
Aug 01, 2008 (6:10 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Aug 01, 2008 5:37 pm)

I'm impressed that the bidding on that '79 5th Ave got up so high! I wish the seller would have just replaced the headliner rather than wedging that strip up in there. That can damage the plastic trim pieces that it's wedged under. I dunno how much a replacement would have cost though...maybe $250-300? Also kinda sucks that the heater core is bad and the rear window doesn't work. I don't think the heater core is too bad to get to in these cars though. And I know how to replace the power windows. My '79 5th Ave gave me some practice.
 
I had entertained the idea of trying to find one really nice R-body and just retiring the two that I have. Only problem with one like this though, is that it's in good enough shape that I'd be afraid to drive it for fear of messing it up. And that interior won't stay in that condition for very long if it started getting used! Heck, I can see a bit of deterioration on my 5th Ave's interior in the time I've had it. I bought it in October 2001, and I think I've only put about 7200 miles on it. Start slamming doors and such, and it won't be long before trim pieces start popping off, cracking, etc.
 
At least with the two I have now, I'm not afraid to drive them, and I wouldn't cry (too much) if something ended up happening to them.
 
That '77 Cutlass is a nice looking car, but there should have been a law that you couldn't put 4-4-2 badging on something that wussy! I could see if it was a 403, but c'mon...a 260?
 
That 1976 Olds Ninety-Eight is a bloated, disgusting wretch of a car that never should have been built in the first place. I don't know why anybody would want something like that. Oh, who am I kidding? I LOVE it!
 
The '73 Electra is nice too. Too bad it's kind of a poopy color.
 
That fintail is gorgeous...even if the seller probably took a bigger financial hit than my retirement porfolio did this year.
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Re: Ebay time [imidazol97] by andre1969
Aug 01, 2008 (6:21 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Aug 01, 2008 6:00 pm)

The 260 first popped up in 1975. It was the base V-8 in the Omega, as well as the Cutlass coupe and sedan. A Chevy 250-inline 6 was actually the base engine, though. But then the next step above the 260 was the 350 V-8. The Cutlass didn't mess around with 305's or 301's. For 1977, the Olds 350 had 170 hp, and I think that was the 4-bbl. Then above that was a 403-4bbl with 185 hp.
 
There was a 160 hp 350, which I guess was a 2-bbl. It was offered only in the Delta 88, with the 170 hp version being optional.
 
The 260 only had 110 hp back in those early years, and had to have been a dog. CR tested a 1977 Cutlass sedan with the 260, and I want to say it took 21 seconds to do 0-60! In that test, they had a newly downsized Caprice with a 305, an LTD II with a 302, and a Monaco or Fury with a 318, and I think they all made 0-60 in about 12.5-13 seconds. I always suspected they picked the 260 for the Cutlass on purpose to make it look bad. A 350 Cutlass probably would have blown all those other cars away. And CR was really pulling for the Caprice.

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