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Re: Today [fintail] by boomchek
Jul 31, 2008 (9:15 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 31, 2008 9:11 am)

Yeah that's what I thought. I'd love to have a nice 500E in my collection.
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Re: Today [boomchek] by fintail
Jul 31, 2008 (9:33 am)
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Replying to: boomchek (Jul 31, 2008 9:15 am)

Same here, I have always had a thing for those since the first time I saw one. Heck, there's even a trio of them on the calendar in my office cube right now. Very cool car.
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Saw what I thought... by bumpy
Jul 31, 2008 (9:33 am)
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was a Vega, solid cow(poop) brown with antique plates, but now that I look the taillights are wrong. Maybe one of those it's-really-a-Vega Monzas? Oddest thing is that it was actually in amazing condition for a '70s POS. I can't imagine it surviving this long, nor can I imagine anyone actually restoring it to a good #3.
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Re: Saw what I thought... [bumpy] by kyfdx HOST
Jul 31, 2008 (10:10 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Jul 31, 2008 9:33 am)

Pontiac Astre?
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Re: Today [fintail] by bhill2
Jul 31, 2008 (11:42 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 31, 2008 9:33 am)

Fin,
 
If I may take a side road here for a minute, I've got a question. Over in the Diesel Forum discussion "Honda Diesel????", post 672 contains a link to a NY Times review of the upcoming Acura/Honda diesel. That review questions whether a diesel could be considered an upscale alternative, referring to the "...ill-fated Mercedes 300SD". Now, it may be because have lived the last 30 years in California, but it is my impression that Mercedes sold a whole bunch of those and their successors. Am I not right?
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Re: Today [bhill2] by fintail
Jul 31, 2008 (1:15 pm)
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Replying to: bhill2 (Jul 31, 2008 11:42 am)

The 70s-80s MB diesels were a huge success, even today many W123 diesels are still in service in harsh areas as taxis...this is no coincidence. They didn't sell in Camcord numbers as they were not cheap, but they were not ill-fated. I see them all the time even today, and they have an obsessive (often penny-pinching and DYI, which isn't always bad) cult behind them.
 
The 300SD was sold in NA for a couple years as a W116 S-class, and then for 5 model years as a W126 S-class, starting in 1981 (I believe NA was the only market for the W126 300SD). The cars themselves were of the highest quality, and the engines will go hundreds of thousands of miles on recommended maintenance. The 300SD was replaced by the 300SDL and a few years later as a 350SD/L. The 350 series cars had some bugs, but the older ones were solid if they were taken care of. I would hardly call these 'ill-fated'. These cars did a lot to give MB a "quality" rep.
  
Shifty had a W123 diesel, he can probably chime in too.
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Re: Today [fintail] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jul 31, 2008 (1:52 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 31, 2008 1:15 pm)

yeah I'm not sure what this "ill-fated" business is all about, unless they are referring to the 350SDL, which did have some serious engine defects. The 300 series diesels did very well, relative to the very small American market for diesel cars.
 
Maybe what they meant is that Americans simply do not like diesel cars, period. We associate diesels with heavy equipment, trucks and bad smells.
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Re: Saw what I thought... [kyfdx] by bumpy
Jul 31, 2008 (2:13 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jul 31, 2008 10:10 am)

Nope, doesn't match that either. The tails were a sort of inverted chevron out at the corners.
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studebaker hawk by explorerx4
Jul 31, 2008 (2:32 pm)
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hood had a bulge in it. gold with some white on the fins. nice condition.
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Re: Saw what I thought... [bumpy] by andre1969
Jul 31, 2008 (5:19 pm)
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Replying to: bumpy (Jul 31, 2008 2:13 pm)

Did it look anything like this?

 
This particular one is a Buick Skyhawk, but I think the fastback models of the Skyhawk/Sunbird/Monza/Starfire all had that same rounded off rump with the Camaro-ish taillights. Now the Buick and Olds only came in the fastback, but the Sunbird and Monza also offered a notchback style. It had a flat rear deck and the rear-end had sort of a reverse-slant to it, I think. And the taillights were taller and larger overall. The Monza also offered a 2-door wagon, but I can't remember if the Sunbird did, as well.
 
I think these things are actually sharp looking cars, if viewed from a distance. That way all you see is their sporty, rakish looks, but not necessarily the shoddy build quality.

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