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Spotted... by lemko
May 07, 2008 (5:42 am)
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...light green base 1974 Oldsmobile Cutlass sedan in pretty decent condition.
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. by fintail
May 11, 2008 (10:46 am)
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I'm back from a few hundred mile road trip, and I did see a few oddballs out on the road. Most remarkable was probably a 52 or 53 Packard convertible driving nonchalantly down a rural highway. Not something you see every day. In the smallish town where I stayed for a few days, I also saw some odd cars...one of those late 70s Olds fastbacks, this one a 2-door, languishing under a carport of a grandma-ish house comes to mind first. I also saw a very nice looking Volvo Amazon wagon sitting on a small town used car lot.
 
The highlight of the car-spotting took place at an estate sale. Out in the garage was a 61 Chrysler New Yorker 4-door post - the slanty-eyed last of the huge fins model. It was an off-white with a blue cloth interior, which was in excellent condition. The odo read 20K, but I am sure it was 120K as it was a regular driver by the old lady owner for nearly 40 years. It had been off the road since 2000. The car was very clean and perfectly straight. I couldn't figure out how to open the hood...the lever was weird, so I don't know what was there. I suspect the car could have been bought for a couple grand.
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Re: . [fintail] by andre1969
May 11, 2008 (2:24 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (May 11, 2008 10:46 am)

If that New Yorker is stock, it should have a 413-4bbl with 350 hp. I used to think those '61's were ugly when I was younger, but have developed more of an appreciation for them as I've gotten older.
 
I haven't seen much of interest over the past couple days, with the exception of a nice looking '62 Chevy 4-door pillared sedan. It was black with red trim on the side. I think it was an Impala, but I didn't see the taillights, so I guess it could've been a Bel Air or Biscayne.
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Re: . [andre1969] by fintail
May 11, 2008 (6:07 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (May 11, 2008 2:24 pm)

I was thinking it would be a 413...I didn't know if the 383 was out that early. That old car I saw was the perfect type to simply clean and drive, don't bother restoring it. The paint would have been fine with a good rub and buff, clean up the interior, put a new set of wide whites on it, give the engine a tuneup and new consumables, and get ready for some fun 8mpg cruising.
 
On the obscure car subject, another oddball I spotted recently was a Nissan NX from the early 90s, the odd little t-topped thing. A girl I knew in high school had a NX2000, it was unusual even when new.
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Re: . [fintail] by andre1969
May 12, 2008 (5:07 am)
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Replying to: fintail (May 11, 2008 6:07 pm)

I was thinking it would be a 413...I didn't know if the 383 was out that early.
 
The 383 first came out for 1959, and for some strange reason, Chrysler actually had TWO versions of it for a couple years! The wedge-head V-8 actually came out the year before in 1958, in 350/361 CID configurations. HP ranged from around 280 in a Dodge or DeSoto Firesweep 350 2-bbl on up to 355 in a DeSoto Adventurer with fuel injection. Chrysler stayed with its older poly head 354's and Hemi 392's for 1958.
 
For 1959, the 350 was dropped, and the wedge was offered in 361/383 CID configurations. That year Chrysler switched to wedgeheads as well. They issued a raised-deck version that was offered in 383 CID for the Windsor/Saratoga and 413 for the NYer, 300E, and Imperial. If you did the math, I think the 383 raised-deck actually rounded off to 382.
 
I dunno why they did that. Maybe for exclusivity or something? So they could claim that Chrysler didn't share an engine with the lesser divisions?
 
I think they only had the two 383's for 1959-60. In 1961, the mid-range Saratoga was dropped. The Windsor used a 383-2bbl that year, but I think it switched to the lower-deck version. That was the Newport's first year, and it was priced to undercut the remnants of DeSoto, and I think was about the same price as a Dodge Polara. It used a watered-down 265 hp 361-2bbl.
 
I wonder what kind of economy a '61 NYer with the 413 would reasonably get? Back when I drove my DeSoto fairly regularly, I was a bit shocked that it actually managed 13-14 mpg in mostly local driving. Maybe 16 on the highway. But there's a huge difference between a 341-2bbl Hemi and a 413-4bbl wedge monster.
 
Oddly, the DeSoto would get about the same economy around town as my '68 Dart 318! I wonder if that's because of the small carb it uses? The opening for the carb on the 341 looks about the same size as the one on the 318. My '79 Newport, which had a 318, also had a really small opening. The 360-2bbl opening in my '79 New Yorkers looks like it can suck down about twice as much volume.
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Re: . [fintail] by bumpy
May 12, 2008 (7:16 am)
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Replying to: fintail (May 11, 2008 6:07 pm)

Ah, the NX: last gasp of the Pulsar in North America, crushed by the Sentra SE-R. The eggs do have a minor cult following these days. I actually kinda like the styling on them, sort of a baby Z32 thing. They would have looked a lot nicer with flip-up headlights instead of the goofy recessed things they got, but sadly the JDM lights were the same so there's no fix there.
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Re: . [andre1969] by fintail
May 12, 2008 (9:36 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (May 12, 2008 5:07 am)

You are like an encyclopedia. Speaking of the mileage, in the 60 Ford my dad had, with a 352, he claimed he could coax it up to around 20mpg on the highway. A 68 Ford he had with a 289/3 on the tree was claimed by him to get in the low 20s on the highway. However, my 66 Ford with a 390/4bbl was good for maybe 14mpg at most on the highway, and I am sure it got under 10mpg in town. It always ran kind of rich though, that couldn't have helped.
 
I'll admit if I had a place to store that thing, and a way to move it, it would have been kind of cool to buy that finned beast. I am afraid it will fall into some kind of rat-rodder hands, and its very original patina will be ruined. It really didn't need much to be a driver. Oh, and I remember it had a power seat..drivers anyway, I didn't look on the other side.
 
I am actually pretty happy I know almost nothing about carbs
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Re: . [bumpy] by fintail
May 12, 2008 (9:40 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (May 12, 2008 7:16 am)

I barely seem them anymore, but one barely saw them when new. I'm not surprised that someone likes them, just for obscurity. Maybe some kind of minor collectible in 20 years.
 
The one I knew back in the day was yellow. I don't know if the girl it was given to really cared for it - the trendy car for spoiled high school girls back then was a Prelude. Another girl I barely knew had a 4WS Prelude, that was interesting in a pointless way.
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Re: . [bumpy] by texases
May 12, 2008 (9:53 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (May 12, 2008 7:16 am)

The Mazda MX-3 seemed to be cut from the same cloth as the NX, equally short-lived.
 
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Re: . [texases] by kyfdx HOST
May 12, 2008 (9:57 am)
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Replying to: texases (May 12, 2008 9:53 am)

Was in San Juan, PR on vacation in 1993... The Mazda MX-3s were everywhere!!
 
One thing that set them apart... the availability of a V-6.. There is one that lives about two blocks from me...

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