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Re: Regular Unlead vs. Premium? [fedlawman] by nj2pa2nc
Jun 26, 2007 (2:09 am)
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Replying to: fedlawman (Jun 25, 2007 7:26 pm)

I know that but I use regular gas with excellant results. My tsx is 7 months old with 17,000+miles. If you think premium gas is better than use it but I will continue to use regular gas. I do alot of driving-mostly highway.
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Re: Regular Unlead vs. Premium? [nj2pa2nc] by fedlawman
Jun 26, 2007 (5:57 am)
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Replying to: nj2pa2nc (Jun 26, 2007 2:09 am)

I'm not "knocking" you (pun intended) I'm just putting out information that might help others decide whether to go with regular or premium.
 
Drive on...
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Reg -vs- Prem by mrgold35
Jun 26, 2007 (6:44 am)
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You only need 91 octane if you drive and push the engine in your car closer to its operational limits like:
- High altitudes
- Close to max weight
- Continuous High speeds (+75 mph)
- Max accelerations
- i-VTEC engagements
- Hilly/mountainous terrain
 
If you drive the TSX like a Blue haired old lady in a Buick, then regular is perfectly fine. There really will not be much of a difference in gas mileage UNTIL you up the performance. Then you will see a drop in performance and mileage using 87 octane.
 
The key to using lower octane is to drive the car at about 50-75% of its capabilities to get the benefits of saving $2 at the pump at each fill-up.
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Re: Regular Unlead vs. Premium? [fedlawman] by pat HOST
Jun 26, 2007 (6:48 am)
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Replying to: fedlawman (Jun 25, 2007 3:03 pm)

I think your post here is very well explained, thanks.
 
Certainly people should do what they feel is best for them, but I've never found a reason to think that an automobile manufacturer doesn't know best how its cars should be treated.
 
Hey hll7575 - where are you in Virginia, if you don't mind me asking? I'm in Norfolk.
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Re: Regular Unlead vs. Premium? [fedlawman] by nj2pa2nc
Jun 26, 2007 (7:06 am)
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Replying to: fedlawman (Jun 26, 2007 5:57 am)

just thought you like to know when we did our 6,177 mile road trip thru 20 states two of the gas stations we stopped at the regular gas was 10-15 cent more per gallon than the premium. we had good luck with regular gas in both our 1991 mazda mx-6 gt (turbo) and our 1998 eagle talon tsi-awd (turbo) the mazda had 250,000+ miles and the talon had 100,000+ when we sold them. they both had the original engine, transmission (manuals) turbos, etc and ran excellant (yes premium gas was recommended). Alot of the car magazines also say to use regular unless you drive a super high performance car. I not knocking you either. I like to read your posts even if I do not always agree.
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My second test drive. by mf15
Jun 26, 2007 (7:11 am)
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This was all highway no dealer with me, 07 auto TSX.
Boy I am still up in the air about this car.
Thought from about 50 to 80 car was slow, could not get it to kick down into a lower gear, perhaps did not press hard enough on the pedal, not sure. Did not mess with the autostick.
Thought highspeed merge on a short onramp was also slow.
Bumps at high speed were rock hard.
I really love the outside looks and the quality interior of this car,especially the blue dash lights. Like the size/price/options and it has a real key.
Drove back to back with an 07 3.5 Altima, which had effortless power, no merge problems.
This is difficlut, may need to also wait for the 08 Accord.
Old Mike
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Re: My second test drive. [mf15] by nj2pa2nc
Jun 26, 2007 (7:20 am)
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Replying to: mf15 (Jun 26, 2007 7:11 am)

did you try one with manual transmission-love that.
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Re: Regular Unlead vs. Premium? [fedlawman] by tradscott
Jun 26, 2007 (9:09 am)
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Replying to: fedlawman (Jun 25, 2007 3:03 pm)

You are correct that retarding the timing has the stated effects.
 
However, it is important to realize that such an adjustment will need to be made only under a subset of the operating conditions. In other words, many drivers will not see these conditions. Unless we know what the subset is, and what the actual effects are, we can't say for sure what the overall affect on fuel economy will be. Lower octane gas actually contains more energy per volume, so it is possible that for most drivers under most operating conditions, that they will see a fuel economy increase, but I don't have enough info to make that assertion.
 
Where I live at ~5000 feet above sea level, 87 octane gas would likely never force the engine to retard the timing. In fact, where I live, they sell 85 octane gas as "regular." 87 is the mid grade and 91 is "premium".
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Re: Regular Unlead vs. Premium? [tradscott] by fedlawman
Jun 26, 2007 (11:47 am)
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Replying to: tradscott (Jun 26, 2007 9:09 am)

Unless your engine is actually knocking, you'll never know if the timing is being retarded or not.
 
The lower energy by volume is what allows the compression ratio to be bumped up for higher performance. With a high compression engine, you litterally get "more bang for the buck" with 91 octane gas.
 
In my opinion, If I wanted to save 20 cents at the pump and spent the vast majority of my time on the highway, I would have saved $10,000 and bought an Accord.
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Re: Regular Unlead vs. Premium? [fedlawman] by nj2pa2nc
Jun 26, 2007 (12:25 pm)
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Replying to: fedlawman (Jun 26, 2007 11:47 am)

do not need an accord-my mom has one- do not like it. My mom lives in NJ and I live in NC-visit her alot so must use the highways in my tsx. my mom, is in her 80's, still drives but not long distance. I wanted 6-spd. We also have an 05 hyundai elantra GT (my husband's car) He also has two motorcycles. (his toys)

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