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#4098 of 5068
Thanks by fedlawman
May 30, 2005 (4:41 pm)
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Johnny420 - Unfortunately, I won't have the BMW in time for the June 11th Magnuson Park Acura meet, but I'll bring it to the next one. You remind me of another thing I'll miss about owning the Acura - the fine community of owners I've met in the Pacific Northwest.
 
Gee35 - Have you been to Bobcor Alfa's Website? No quicker way to raise your spirits (and drain your wallet) then to peruse their inventory of fully restored Alfa Romeo GTV's, Guilia's, Sprints, and Spiders. http://www.bobcoralfa.com/salespage.html
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New to the boards by flicmod
May 31, 2005 (11:33 am)
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Hey all,
  This is my first time posting so be nice to me . I just wanted to make some random, general comments about my TSX, so don't think I'm incoherently babbling.
  I bought my car last October. It's my first new car. Previous car (my first car too) was a '90 Civic sedan. That thing was a beast, I'll tell ya! I used to think it was the shit. The TSX changed that.
  I opted for an AT instead of the MT because I do a lot of city driving and shifting none stop for my commute would take the fun out of driving the TSX. It's arctic blue, factory ground effects, rear spoiler, fog lights, the five-spoke factory wheels. I wanted it to look sporty, but not like that rice crap that my generation thinks is so hot. I think, appearance-wise, it's modest, yet cool.
  Enough of that though... the real meat and potatoes is in the mechanics of the monster. I haven't had any problems yet (has 14k miles on it now). I do a lot of road trips too, and honestly, I enjoy driving it in the city as much as I love driving it on the open road/expressway. Power is nice. It's a lot better than that 105hp coming out of my old Civic. Like 4acuras said in a post above, you can let someone sit at a traffic light, or you can accelerate to pass someone on the highway or two-lane road without even thinking about breaking a sweat.
  The VSA system is fabulous. I don't know how many times I've driven around sharp corners at high speeds just to push the limits of the system and it works great every time. I'd like to drive the new RL to see how the system feels in an AWD car.
  Sound system is great. I don't listen to loud, thumping rap music (again, like the rest of my generation) but whether you have the speakers blaring up around 20-24 on the volume setting or at low volume, it works fine. You can always be better though.
  The interior of the car is, in my opinion, even more eye-catching than the exterior. Leather with the polished metal trim is catchy. I think that's what sold me on the car. The gauges and displays help a lot also. No nav-system though. I didn't feel like forkin' out 2k's for something I'll never use. If anyones got props for it though, let me know.
  There are two things that bug me about it though. Both are minor, but with a car this good, you're forced to resort to picking out the small things that are wrong with it. The first is that there are two fairly big blind spots in the A and C pillars. The latter being the worst of them. The front blind spot I run into quite often, especially when I'm making a turn at an intersection. You never know when a pedestrians going to walk out in front of you! The rear spot is bad on the right side when you're merging lanes on the highway. There's been a few times I saw the car next to me at the last second. Although, I've spent 6 years driving that Civic that had no blind spots whatsoever, so a lot of it is probably me not used to having them.
  The second "complaint" I have is that there is no option to turn the TCS off. I know most cars with the system don't have an option either, apart from some of the muscle cars like the Trans Am and the like. One problem I ran into with this was over the winter (I live in PA) a freak snow storm came in while I was out and I got caught at the bottom of a pretty steep hill in an inch of unplowed snow. If it wasn't for the TCS to keep kicking in, I would've made it up no problem. But the blasted thing had to keep interfering with me so I couldn't get enough RPM to climb the hill. Only complaints though.
  Alright, I'm done now... I'll post pretty regularly on here when I have the time.
 
Wes
 
PS- also to 4acuras: I agree with your comment about the S2000 and its power. When that car first came out, I was blown away to know that Honda got 240 horses from a 2.0. Whoever said it's impossible is on crack. Imagine GM doing the same thing with a Corvette, or Ford with the Mustang. You're talking 6-700 hp from a 5.7 liter engine, N/A too. Way to go Honda!
  Oh yeah! Does anyone know of any venders who sell roof bike racks for the TSX? Since mine has a spoiler, my old trunk mounted rack won't work on the Acura.
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Re: New to the boards [flicmod] by xplorx4
May 31, 2005 (1:06 pm)
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Replying to: flicmod (May 31, 2005 11:33 am)

I'm with you on the restricted visibility caused by the A-pillar. While looking for a parking spot at my office, I nearly hit a pedestrian who was hidden behind it! I now make sure to move my head/body to look around that huge A-pillar.
 
The second "complaint" I have is that there is no option to turn the TCS off.
 
Yes there is. TCS is the same as VSA. The button to disable VSA is on the dash next to the sunroof switch. When VSA is disabled, the /!\ light glows on the instrument panel.
 
If you enjoy driving at the limit, you will find that the car handles very predictably and comfortably with VSA disabled. It neither oversteers nor understeers excessively; it's pretty neutral.
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Re: New to the boards [xplorx4] by flicmod
Jun 01, 2005 (5:32 am)
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Replying to: xplorx4 (May 31, 2005 1:06 pm)

Does the VSA and TCS function the same? I was under the impression that they were two separate systems. I know where the /!\ button is and I have turned it off occassionally too. The TCS prevents wheel spin when there's too much power going to the wheels and not enough traction to pick that power up. The VSA does kind of the same thing I guess, but it transfers power from side to side instead of lowering the RPMs. Correct me if I'm wrong. I'll take your word on it being the same though.
I might have to try disabling it to see how fun it is. I was always a little hesitant to do it before because I didn't know how it would exactly change the handling. I'll test it out though.
Well, at least other owners have found the A pillar blind spot to be troublesome. Glad to hear you didn't drive over the guy though!
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Re: New to the boards [flicmod] by flicmod
Jun 01, 2005 (5:34 am)
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Replying to: flicmod (Jun 01, 2005 5:32 am)

Let me correct something I said above. I turned off the VSA button by accident before. My knee hit it when I was getting in the car while it was running. I haven't tried to turn it off intentionally to see how the car handles. Thought my last post sounded kind of contradictory!
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flicmod- VSA by xplorx4
Jun 01, 2005 (7:47 am)
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On the TSX, the traction-control system is called "Vehicle Stability Assist" (VSA). So, TCS and VSA are just two different acronyms for the same thing. VSA employs both braking and throttle control to maintain traction and stability.
 
If the system is on, you cannot spin the tires. VSA will reduce throttle and apply brakes as necessary. Of course, in hard cornering, it will also brake the appropriate wheels to prevent oversteer.
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Re: flicmod- VSA [xplorx4] by flicmod
Jun 01, 2005 (8:18 am)
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Replying to: xplorx4 (Jun 01, 2005 7:47 am)

I got ya now. I assumed they were separate, not one system under two separate names. Thanks for the info. I appreciate it.
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Re: flicmod- VSA [xplorx4] by lmacmil
Jun 01, 2005 (6:23 pm)
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Replying to: xplorx4 (Jun 01, 2005 7:47 am)

"So, TCS and VSA are just two different acronyms for the same thing."
 
Well, not exactly. Stability control adds inputs from the yaw and steering angle sensors to selectively brake one wheel to correct an oversteer or understeer condition. TCS just looks at wheel slip and brakes the slipping wheel or reduces throttle input until traction is regained. The reason one switch disables them both is that they share solenoids in the ABS modulator.
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Re: flicmod- VSA [lmacmil] by flicmod
Jun 02, 2005 (5:44 am)
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Replying to: lmacmil (Jun 01, 2005 6:23 pm)

See, that's what I thought they did. I was confused at what xplorx4 was saying because the names "traction control system" and "vehicle stability assist" have no relation to one another. One is supposed to control traction, while the other is supposed to control handling. I can see your point about why they are both disabled when you push the VSA button on the dash.
 
Here's another thing, but correct me if I'm wrong... the VSA on the TSX is the same setup as on the RL and I would assume the TL has the same also. The VSA on the RL allots 60% of power to the front wheels and 40% to the back, but when cornering, the VSA can transfer up to 100% of power to the outside wheels. I was always under the impression that since its the same system on all the cars, that this is what it did. Similar to a limited-slip diff.
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Re: flicmod- VSA [flicmod] by flicmod
Jun 02, 2005 (5:46 am)
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Replying to: flicmod (Jun 02, 2005 5:44 am)

Sorry, this last parts kind of misleading. Minus the AWD from the TSX and TL. I meant to say that the VSA on both of these cars just transfers power left to right, whereas the setup on the RL transfers power to all four corners.

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