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Toyota 4Runner, SUV
#275 of 323 Send feedback to the 2003 4Runner product engineer
Nov 20, 2002 (10:34 am)
I too will send my positive feedback to Toyota. When I heard that there would be a fourth generation of the 4Runner with a V8, I was really hoping they would break the mold and change everything. They did and I bought one. If it had just been another tweak of the second generation (like the third gen was) I would have been disappointed and kept my 1990. (Most non-Toyota people can't tell the difference between a second and third generation 4Runner without it being pointed out to them).
I live in the land of gravel being used on the roads for traction in winter, and inconsiderate jerks who swing their doors into the vehicle parked next to them, so I like the plastic cladding. I like the new dash & gauges & controls - a refreshing change from the bland. (And my wife can't see the speedometer from the passenger seat so she can't tell how fast we're going...)
It is a great new machine.
Nov 20, 2002 (12:45 pm)
Things are unfolding as many people thought... to some extent.
1-Disgruntled existing 4Runner owner who want to upgrade
2-Excited new customers moving over from other brands (mainly JGC who was their prime target according to some Toyota folks I've talked to)
I imagine that it might feel the same way when your favorite musician or poet turns out commercial with crowd-pleasing pop songs that make the charts between Michael Bolton and Britney Spears......
To many of us, Toyota had a great product with the 3rd gen that only needed more power and an updated interior. That was simple.
They just bent to market pressure and created an urban toy that would sell well to the general market.
"Oh my gosh.. a speed bump... let's put this thing in 4WD if we want to make sure we can cross this thing and the next poodle of water... Hang on"
#277 of 323 New machine
Nov 20, 2002 (5:44 pm)
You folks make it sound like you can't take this new 4runner off-road. I certainly hope you are wrong about that. I traded in my Xterra for the new 4Runner with the intent of continuing to go off-road. Also, I really don't mind the plastic, it seems to protect the vehicle pretty well.
I do have one problem. I can't clear the garage door when I open the hatch. Is there any way to prevent the hatch from extending all the way?
#278 of 323 2003 SR5 with body colored clading
Nov 20, 2002 (8:08 pm)
Those of you who HATE the body clading on the SR5 are in for a surprise. While driving on the freeway in SoCal (22 west Garden Grove) I saw a 4Runner SR5 with BODY COLORED clading. It did not have any lic plates. I was floored to see it. I think the car belonged to Toyota of Garden Grove. It was light blue in color and looked very sharp. It did not have the rear hatch spoiler. At first I thought it was a Limited, then I looked at the front left fender/door (I do not remember which) and I saw SR5. I think this is worth looking into. I am pretty sure that it was an SR5.
Nov 20, 2002 (8:58 pm)
I have heard of a few dealers painting the cladding themselves.
Nov 21, 2002 (12:47 am)
from a different thread is that Toyota is changing the cladding on SR5s to be body-colored with vehicles widely available in 90 days! And this report was from a dealer!
Nov 21, 2002 (11:04 am)
Is that set in stone from Toyota Central itself? Generally dealers can't get their info straight on anything.
Nov 21, 2002 (6:25 pm)
I had mentioned this on another thread - can't remember which. But, yes my good friend is a Toyota dealer and his rep told him that body colored cladding would be offered in 90 days. There was a dealer/Toyota meeting in Cleveland recently, at which the topic came up. Evidently, the product isn't moving as intended. Personally, I wasn't diggin the new model all that much, but it is growing on me - don't mean to sound like I'm caving. A limited in the Titanium Silver is a nice look. I drove a Limited and it was extremely smooth and very fun to drive, which I think helped to change my opinion. That torque makes all the difference. I have an 01' Highlander that I'd like to trade in next year. V6 will be here by January. I'm dumbfounded as to why Toyota won't give you the 5 speed gear box with the V6. Doesn't it make sense? The new Volvo SUV is just the opposite - the larger engine gets a 4 speed and the smaller engine gets the 5 speed.
Nov 21, 2002 (9:18 pm)
the larger engine gets the 4-spd because the new specially designed 5-spd can't handle the torque of the larger engine, or something like that. Just one more case of the new globalism - getting your parts from all over, so that some only fit some configurations.
As for me, I wish they still offered the 5 speed MANUAL in the new 4Runners. Last year you could get that I think was '99 or so.
Nov 22, 2002 (12:49 pm)
Per articles, the 5-speed won't fit with the straight 6 motor in the engine compartment, as built now.