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#18 of 323 I would hope that Toyota
Aug 02, 2002 (8:19 am)
would engineer the new truck to have a fold-flat 3rd seat, if they were to put one in! The clam-shell seats are an easy add-on for 2004. If you get a picture of the 2nd row, that will provide the answers, of if it is ready for 3rd row passengers.
Remember, Toyota DID TRY a 3rd seat with the current 4Runner in 1997. Maybe this time, they can make it more useable.
#19 of 323 3rd Row Seats
Aug 02, 2002 (4:42 pm)
Toyota has three (3) vehicles built off of this new platform for MY 03. The new TLC Prado, GX470 and 4RUNNER. Since the GX470 will have the 3RD row seats (very similar to the TLC & LX470).
While the general thought is no on the 3rd row the at first is very likely. If Toyota sees a market segment and business case they will do it, and it may be an option to order. Saying the 3rd row seats would eat up Sequoia sales is like saying the Explorer takes away Expedition sales. They don't. Two different sized vehicles for different sized uses.
If you want it tell Toyota you want it. Since the GX470, Prado and 4RUNNER are all the same minus sheet metal and interior grade levels then the seat can be done.
#20 of 323 DC dealers
Aug 03, 2002 (8:34 am)
Anyone know a reputable Toyota dealership/sales person in the Washington DC area? I'm considering one of the 2003 4runners and want to avoid "required" dealership add-on extras (e.g., paint protection, market alignment charges, etc).
#21 of 323 On the Explorer/Expedition issue, I disagree with Md2002
Aug 03, 2002 (9:07 am)
The Explorer has definitely hurt Expedition sales, as Expedition sales have been in a consistent 15-20% decline since the Explorers 3rd seat came out. I work for Ford, so I know costumers do compare the medium and full-sized SUV's.
That's why Tahoe sales are so strong. It's the only GM SUV with 3 rows! So Toyota knows this, and is trying to sell more Sequioas, for a higher margin than the 30k 4Runner/HighLander. That's why they don't have 3 rows yet. Toyota wants the Sequioa to sell.
#22 of 323 GM SUV's with 3rd Row
Aug 03, 2002 (11:49 am)
Well I am not an automotive expert, but a objective buyer. I have been driving the Moutnainer for a few days (rental) and I can say it's ok, but I wouldn' buy one. WHY? 3rd row seat. I have not pull over to cover the cargo area. Since I have no use for the extra seats and they cannot be removed (if I were to buy one) then I dont care for it.
Those who want a full size SUV are not the same as the mid size SUV shoppers.
Also one last note. GM has been shipping and selling the Trailblazer XL & Envoy XL, you know 3RD ROW SEAT versions. So how long before the Tahoe loses sales. A Tahoe is not a Trailblazer enen in comfort and size.
#23 of 323 Get an Explorer with 2 rows of seats
Aug 03, 2002 (12:18 pm)
And the Tahoe should start to lose sales almost immediately, with the new 2003 Expedition and the TrailBlazer EXT to compete with.
Aug 03, 2002 (10:26 pm)
I have also heard 4.0 for the V6.
I'm curious too about the mpg difference between the 2 engines. Vehicle weight is going to be a factor. Should increase. I can't imagine the difference to be much, I suspect somewhere around 2 mpg at best.
#25 of 323 One last note about the Mountaineer
Aug 04, 2002 (3:37 pm)
The build quality and plastics are CHEAP. The vhehicle only as 10k on the clock and already there is a weird buzzing sound coming from somewhere in the cabin. But then again its a rental and it will be gone in a few days.
Most Tahoe buyers are long term owners although they do sell allot of them. How many recalls has GM had on the mid size, full size and min SUV's compared to the Escape, Exlorer & Expedition.
Not looking for a flame war, just stating a question and correcting some postings.
#26 of 323 american cars
Aug 04, 2002 (7:24 pm)
This suppose to be a toyota forum. U.S SUV's such as Ford, GM, etc. fall apart in the tropics and endurance is poor. Toyota is the indisputable king of bad roads. Turbodiesels are my choice.
Anybody with a new Prado pic. Thx
Aug 05, 2002 (6:15 am)
This topic exists to exchange information on the 2003 Toyota 4Runner, and is definitely not the place for SUV wars. Back on topic, please!
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