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Mazda Protege, Mazda MAZDASPEED Protege, Sedan
Jan 08, 2003 (4:48 am)
Actually it is.
But I'll echo rotarykid --
I've owned two '92 Protege LXs, my current 2000 ES and my wife now drives an '02 Protege5. All four vehicles have been absolutely problem-free, requiring nothing but scheduled maintenance (I drove my second '92 83,000 miles and my current '00 ES has 48,800 miles on it after only 31 months of ownership).
I cannot compare these four Japanese-made vehicles with the awful Ford-made 1994 Mazda B2300 pickup I owned. It was nothing but problems and spent weeks at a time in the shop -- all due to engine troubles that began at 8,000 miles. Yes, Mazda helped me out and waived (can you believe it?) the expiration of my warranty, covering all repairs until I got rid of the truck two years after the warranty expired. Great, you say? Well, it still had at least one inconvenient stay at the dealership per month -- several for a week or more and one for two weeks and one day, no exaggeration; I have the inch-thick pile of paperwork to prove it -- and I think I drove just about every car available in Enterprise's rental fleet, all at Mazda's expense. In my frustrated searches for a fix to the problem, which caused Mazda to spend more than $4,000 and still not fix my $12,900 truck, I actually found two people on the Internet, one in Colorado and one in New Jersey, who were having the exact same problems and also having no luck at their dealerships.
Now, I predict Maltb will come in here and shoot me down, as he does every time I bring up the truck, telling me his was wonderful. But let me say this -- I think it's ironic that FOUR Japanese-made Mazdas gave me not one iota of trouble, but my experience with ONE Ford-made Mazda product was a real bummer. Any idiot knows that the chances were much higher that I'd have a bad experience with the four cars than with just one pickup.
Disclaimer: My experiences, my opinions. Please don't eat me up for stating facts that happened to me. I've been a Mazda customer exclusively for 12 years now, and I plan to replace my current Protege with a 6 in 2005 or 2006 -- but I will never purchase another Ford-built Mazda product. It makes me sick to think the 6-cylinder Mazda6 has a Ford Duratec engine in it -- that fact alone may be enough to sway me to settle for the 4-cylinder, all Mazda version.
Jan 08, 2003 (1:15 pm)
Now, I predict Maltb will come in here and shoot me down, as he does every time I bring up the truck, telling me his was wonderful.
I may have posted a response to your B2300 experience 2 times. Far less than the 30 times you have talked about it.
Jan 08, 2003 (3:32 pm)
We know Meade likes to exaggerate (sometimes).
Now I better watch out
#35 of 51 meade, dont get me started one the trucks.......
Jan 08, 2003 (7:40 pm)
I have owned 3 MAZDA trucks in the past, 84,88, and 92. The best part about those trucks (well maybe not the 84) was that they drove like cars. They were simple small trucks that got the job done for the average homeowner. If you need to move two tons of bricks every other weekend, obviously there is a slew of "tough" trucks made by domestic companies, but thats just a different market. the ford b series trucks have been nothing but trouble from the get go. They are so underpowered for having "big" engines its not funny. We have had more TSB's to go along with every model of 93 up b series, you could fill a football stadium with them. Just another way in which ford has enhanced the quality at mazda.
Jan 09, 2003 (6:37 am)
Try multiplying that number by 10 or so. Be a man and admit that you publish a retort every time I breathe a criticism about my '94 B2300. Don't make me have to take the time to go back and copy posts to prove you wrong to these fine people. I know Pat could confirm what I'm saying, but she'll probably take a middle-of-the-road position on this. Actually, since this won't do anyone any good (nor are many folks interested in this), I have a better idea: Let's just drop it and let this discussion get back to the Mazdaspeed Protege. No more about the truck problems from me, at least here.
#38 of 51 Meade, Malt, etc.
Jan 09, 2003 (9:38 am)
What exactly does a 94 B2300 truck have to do with the Mazdaspeed Protege 2003 Compact Sedan?
#39 of 51 Isn't that what I just said?
Jan 09, 2003 (9:46 am)
You bein' mean, Ted?
#40 of 51 Who, me?
Jan 09, 2003 (4:47 pm)
Actually, I am not sure why it took more than 3 hours for my post to show up.
Jan 10, 2003 (4:11 am)
Tell us another one.