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51 messages, Last post on May 15, 2003 at 2:31 PM
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What is this discussion about? Mazda Protege, Mazda MAZDASPEED Protege, Sedan
#15 of 51 I could'nt wait any longer by gemmint
Dec 08, 2002 (6:11 pm)
To all readers I have wanted to get a Mazdaspeed since summer, after hearing about the turbo.I drove a regular Protege, not liking it much but wanted all the extras the Mazdaspeed offered. I had a 10 year old VW Fox GL that I did not want to put another dime into. The Mazda dealer said they would give me a call upon arrival. I the mean time I went to a Carmax and ended up buying a Nissan 2001 Pathfinder LE with 7200 miles. It is a big diffrence in cars, but I will have to enjoy just looking at a Mazdaspeed than driving one. I am not disappointed in my purchase, just stating life keeps going on. All of you new Mazdaspeed owners I hope the wait is worth it. I will for sure see you on the street.
#17 of 51 Mazdaspeed vs WRX by herculespeanut
Dec 28, 2002 (10:08 pm)
So I test drove a Mazdaspeed today. It was nice. The engine was very smooth and power was instantly available. I am comparing it to a Subaru WRX and struggling to decide.
On the one hand, the WRX has all wheel drive and seems to grip better. I felt the Mazda's front wheels slip accelerating out of a curve a couple of times. It is faster and (this is big) doesn't require a cool down for the turbo.
On the other hand, the Mazda is much better looking, seems a bit larger, and costs less.
Anyone here have any personal experience?
Thanks
#18 of 51 None, but by dinu01
Dec 29, 2002 (10:05 am)
Considering the price difference, I would opt for the MazdaSpeed3. But when I look at the price again, I'd rather have a 6 for that much $.Dinu
#19 of 51 Mazda6 by herculespeanut
Dec 29, 2002 (5:33 pm)
The problem with the Mazda6 is that it is made in Michigan. Combine that with the fact that Ford owns Mazda and I lose all interest.My personal experience.
1. Every American made car I (or my wife) has owned has been mediocre at best.
2. Every Ford we have owned has been awful
3. Every Japanese built card (actually made in Japan) we have owned has been wonderful.
I have learned from experience not to trust American made cars and Fords in particular. That's too bad too, I love the way the Mazda6 looks. The MSP is pretty sharp as well.
Thanks for your reply.
#20 of 51 I understand and agree with you Hercules ... by mdaffron
Dec 31, 2002 (11:35 am)
But keep one thing in mind.While the Mazda6 is being BUILT in Michigan, the parts are all from Japan. Except, of course, for the engine in the 6s --- but that's Ford's Duratec with some fine-tuning by Mazda. And the Duratec has been in the MPV since the new version came out three years ago, and they've been very reliable. If you want an all-Mazda 6, you can buy the 6i whose four-cylinder engine is made by our friends in Hiroshima.
But I can't wait to see what the Ford-Mazda relationship does for Ford in 2004 (possibly 2005) when the venerable Taurus becomes a rebadged Mazda6.
Meade
P.S. to Rotarykid ... Funny you said Mazda's early 90's turbo cars were great ... I've been a customer at my Mazda dealership since 1991 and I am very good friends with a mechanic there ... we were shooting the breeze about the RX-8 one day and he said it'd be much more reliable than the last RX-7 was since it's non-turbocharged. He said the twin-turbo'd RX-7 was infamous for blowing up engines between 20,000 and 30,000 miles, and Mazda pulled the plug on it here because it was so unreliable.
#21 of 51 by audia8q
Dec 31, 2002 (1:46 pm)
If ford did not bail out Mazda...chances are they would not be around. Ford has been great for Mazda and there has been nothing but an increase in Mazda quality since Ford took control.#22 of 51 Bull Hockey!!! by mdaffron
Jan 02, 2003 (10:07 am)
I've owned Mazdas since before Ford got their hands into Mazda -- nonstop since 1991. Let me tell you from personal experience -- Ford's money may have helped, but Ford's mechanical influence has really messed up Mazda's reliability! Ask anyone with the last-generation automatic 626 or a 1994-96 B-series pickup! (a.k.a. Ford Ranger)Meade
#23 of 51 Herc by maltb
Jan 03, 2003 (8:50 pm)
(this is big) doesn't require a cool down for the turbo.Does the subie have an oiler that runs after the engine is shut down? If not, I wouldn't run a turbo up to temp and not let it cool off unless you like instant carbon clog in your impeller bearings.
Just curious: I haven't looked at the wrx in detail.
#24 of 51 Meade by maltb
Jan 03, 2003 (8:51 pm)
I loved my truck...hehehe. disc/drum anyone?Just kidding! happy new year!
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