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He does reviews for MSN - CARPOINT. You can find all of his test drives here... http://autos.msn.com/home/reviewerspage.aspx?src=Home&pos=Edi- tHL5 I find it pretty hard to believe too on the Maxima. I thought the Maxima would be faster stock. The Altima is listed there with 0-60 in 7.7 sec. and 1/4-mile in 15.9 sec. I don't know. If you think he is wrong take it up with him I guess. That number was with the automatic trans. |
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| Impala SS advertised. Only 240 HP? | |
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Yea 240 hp and 280 lb-ft for the SS. Peek HP does not give you the entire picture. We need to stop relying on that number so much. Car makers should really publish the HP and torque curve for their cars. Then we can make better and more informed power comparisons on cars. Peek HP and torque isn't everything. |
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MSN Carpoint, that vaunted and widely respected/ circulated automotive publication. Riiiiight. Here's what I see: Accord (with its comparatively meager 212lb ft) as per Car and Driver, October 2002: 0-60: 7.0 seconds Street Start (real world 0-60): 7.2 sec 30-50 passing: 4.0 sec 50-70 passing: 4.1 sec Quarter mile: 15.5 Impala 3.8L, Car and Driver, December 2001 0-60: 8.6 Street Start (real world 0-60): 8.4 30-50 passing: 3.6 sec 50-70 passing: 5.6 sec Quarter mile: 16.6 So, basically, the Impala, with its over-sized V6, holds an advantage ONLY by 4 tenths in 30-50 pass. Why are there so many fans of this engine? The torque spread only goes so far, as these numbers show, and this engine needs a supercharger to match the Honda's much more current engineering. ~alpha |
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| I own a '98 Regal GS and the wife owns a '00 GSE. She bought her car because of the excellent performance of mine. Believe me, the '04 Impala SS will be a decent car too, although probably not the collectors car the '94-'96 Impala SS is. I don't think anyone will be greatly disappointed with the very good acceleration off the line you will get with the S/C 3800 motor. The 0-60 time with our Regals is about 6.5-6.6 seconds. The 0-60 time of the '63 Chevy Impala SS (with the great 409 engine and a large 4 barrel carb) was 6.2 seconds, so you'll get comparable performance to that with the '04 SS. | |
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This right here: Grand Prix GTP 0-60 mph in 7.2 sec. 1/4-mile in 15.5 sec is rediculous. I know people with completely stock GTPs who ran 14.4's in the 1/4 mile!! That 15.5 is completely off, unless you meant to type 14.5, then that's about average! Approx. 7 seconds 0-60mph is right. |
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This right here: Impala 3.8L, Car and Driver, December 2001 0-60: 8.6 Street Start (real world 0-60): 8.4 30-50 passing: 3.6 sec 50-70 passing: 5.6 sec Quarter mile: 16.6 is rediculous too, because I (yes, me- direct evidence) ran the 1/4 mile in my stock Impala in 15.8 in 96 degree temps! So it's bogus! |
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| I have to give the Maxima a little credit now though: Stock top of the line Maxima's give stock GTP's a run. Stock top of the line Maxima's run the 1/4 in about 14.6 or so usually. To bad the engines aren't as reliable. They do create power though. | |
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All magazines and reviews seem to have slightly different numbers. That was the only thing on-line that I could easily reference at the time. I thought he was way off on the Maxima and GTP too. The real point is that the numbers are comparable with most of the other cars in it's segment. It is faster then some and slower then others. The Impala is bigger and weighs a little more too so its a trade off. Very few cars keep up with me on the highway when I drive fast as it is now so I can't wait to add a few mods. Look out. I had her at like 115 mph on an empty road and it was amazing how solid it felt at that speed. The real point is that these punks are all over the place saying that the jap cars are far superior to what American cars makers have to offer and that is just a load of bull crap. |
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Oh and one more thing. Please don't bother reading any Impala reviews from Edmunds. They are totally biased against this version of the car. All they do is compare it to the old Impala's and give a bogus review. Look at the consumer ratings "9.2" or any other site or magizine. Edmunds actualy say the Malibu is a better car so that should tell you right there that they are smoking something. Ok I'm done now. |
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