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#84 of 233 SS... by dgonzalez13 Feb 25, 2003 (9:19 am)
Every dealer I call (nassau and Brooklyn) has no information, and wont take deposits. Yes, I am this nuts over getting one. Totally looking forward to it. Mostly looking forward to the interior and having a black car for the first time in my life. I love the sandrift color i have now, but originally wanted black. I beleive car washes make cars go faster too, so no matter when i get my SS , i will be thrilled. I am a dealers dream, as in i usually walk in with one car and out with another, with not a lot of haggle as long as i get a great APR and the options i want.
#85 of 233 03 LS Sport by garyw Feb 25, 2003 (10:57 am)
This past weekend I sat in a 2003 LS Black with sport package that had a TAN interior. Never saw that combo last year...must be new. Also sat in an 03 black/black Accord EX...man what a gorgeous interior. Lutz has a huge bar to meet on the interior but I'll still take a 3800 series engine anyday.
#86 of 233 by atbear Feb 25, 2003 (10:59 am)
"ummmmm 220 hp vs. 200 you putz. also you fail to acknowledge that GM needs to have extra .8 litres of displacement just to have comparable numbers. Plus the 3800 has major issues with plastic manifolds popping off and leaking coolant all inside." You didn't read my message at all did you, regsoccer? Go read it, I've already responded to this... or read 02LSsport's post..
#87 of 233 by 02lssport Feb 25, 2003 (2:41 pm)
LOL
#88 of 233 by regfootball Feb 25, 2003 (9:06 pm)
why don't you just go find some numbers for the 2 cars....v6....automatic. wanna see 1/4 mile 0-60 0-100 30-50 50-70
#89 of 233 by regfootball Feb 25, 2003 (9:23 pm)
http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/comparison/articles/43901/page001.- - html the NINTH PLACE (in 2000 nonetheless) Impala gets a 0-60 of 8.2 seconds. The Mazda6 automatic v6 tested by Edmunds comes in at 8 seconds according to the article I found on this site. The comparison is valid as it was done by the same editorial group. So much for all that torque. Taking a cheap engine design, trying to make up for the unspohiscated design by bumping up displacement, tends to make the whole thing heavier and bigger, and seems to have no positive effect on the acceleration or any other part of the car. To top it off you are stuck with a powertrain that does not compare to what in the Ford/Mazda6 Edmunds termed "buttery smooth". Of course I can also say the 6 with a manual is under 7 seconds which is again even quicker. All this considering the duratec gives up 800cc of displacement. so.... "WHERE'S YOUR MOSES NOW?"""""" you GMer's ought to give it up with all this love for that stupid 3800 v6. IT'S AVERAGE TO MEDIOCRE BY TODAY'S STANDARDS.....get over it. GM may have set up the throttle linkage to make it feel fast off the line (CLASSIC GM 'LAUNCH FEEL') and it no doubt has a good automatic tranny paired to it....but man, its average. Nothing more, nothing less.
#91 of 233 by atbear Feb 25, 2003 (10:02 pm)
Alright man.. I don't really feel like typing right now, but here goes.. We are not saying this is the most complex-- the most modern-- the most high tech-- or the most powerful engine in the world. We also aren't saying that DOHC doesn't have its place.. Now that I've got that said, I'll get into it a little.. We like the 3800 engine because it's very torquey... If we push the pedal to 2000 RPMs we'll get to 55MPH in no time. There's enough torque at 2000 RPMs to get the job done. Push the pedal a little more spiritedly to 3000-3500 RPMs and we are in our powerband!! Imagine that! Being in your powerband MOST of the time... What a concept! I personally love it. The 3800 creates a respectable amount of power for a V6- 200. It also makes a respectable amount of torque- 225. The fact that it's a pushrod engine means that the powerband is quite flat starting at a low RPM. That makes driving it fun everyday. It pulls hard and is smooth, and has decent power. The 3800 is also tried and true and very reliable. It has the nickname bulletproof because it lasts so long. I can drive everyday and have no worries at all about the engine. It's rock solid! The block and the whole bottom end is very tight (just look at the Supercharged 3800s-- they are boosting into in at the factory!). I'll have my 3800 up to about 270HP soon with simple bolt ons... I'd like to see you do that with your DOHC engines! And finally in response to your 0-60 times.. I for one don't really believe those times, because they are high. I've seen people do it almost a second faster than that in a 3800 car stock. But even if we took it as true, .2 seconds surely doesn't make up for the amount of weight difference between the two cars, so the 3800 is actually PROVED more powerful by that very test!! I'm sick of typing, so I'm gonna stop.... but just think of this... GM's new engines are coming in the next couple years (3.5L V6 etc)... they are gonna rock!
#92 of 233 This is getting silly... by 02lssport Feb 26, 2003 (3:09 am)
Here are numbers from Daniel Heraud's Test Drive reviews. Impala 0-60 mph in 8.2 sec. 1/4-mile in 16.0 sec. Monte Carlo 0-60 mph in 8.0 sec. 1/4-mile in 15.8 sec. Grand Prix GTP 0-60 mph in 7.2 sec. 1/4-mile in 15.5 sec. Toyoda Camry and Solaro 0-60 mph in 8.2 sec. 1/4-mile in 16.5 sec. NISSAN MAXIMA 0-60 mph in 8.2 sec. 1/4-mile in 16.5 sec. Ford Taurus (Mazda6 is based on this engine) 0-60 mph in 8.9 sec. 1/4-mile in 16.9 sec. Mitsubishi Galant 0-60 mph in 8.8 sec. 1/4-mile in 16.8 sec. As you can see the GM 3800 is BETTER and STRONGER then its competetion. The numbers don't lie. Too bad they didn't have the Mazda6 listed yet. So it does 1-60 in 8 seconds - the Monte Carlo with the 3800 does it in 8 secs too! And I bet the Mazda does 1/4 mile in about 16.5 seconds. Look at all the other cars I have listed. ALL SLOWER the the GM 3800 so how is it a crappy engine or old technology. These are all current cars that supposidly have great engines even the Maxima. Hm? How? Hard to believe huh? You can be quite now. Mazda6 has very nice styling. I'll say that much. It looks fast buy it really is not that fast. With a few easy mods the 3800 can produce much more then 200 HP.
#93 of 233 who is Heraud? by alpha01 Feb 26, 2003 (5:36 am)
and when were these tests run? I find it hard to believe that a 255hp Maxima cant outrun the (what was then) 192hp Camry. can you post tell us where we can see this information? -alpha