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atbear by garnes
Mar 14, 2003 (9:34 am)
Yeah, they do that and I think it's stupid. Some that come to mind are the outgoing 5.7 L Camaro and Firebirds. I've seen chassis dyno's that clearly indicate the engine is producing power closer to the corvette (a huge amount of power is making it to the wheels). But they underrate the power so as not to "compete" with the vette.
 
Also, I've always found it weird that the 3.8's in some Pontiacs make 230 torque and the Chevy is 225. Yeah right. The set up is the same as far as I can tell. I wouldn't be surprised that the Chevy is simply listed 5 less than the Pontiac just to keep some sort of artificial line between the divisions.
 
GM is infamous for this and they think they are helping their divisions. It's stupid.
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Opps! by kirbstoy
Mar 14, 2003 (10:51 am)
OK. OK. Sorry for the negativity on the new Impala SS. I really like the new Impala and, in fact, am seriously considering a new LS when my current vehicle lease is up. My disappointment really comes from it being available only in black...but, as mentioned in a previous listing, Pontiac (and Buick) offer the same driveline with other colors, so I guess that's ok. I guess my biggest disapointment is that its not a rear-drive Vortec V-8 which Chevy has done recently to demonstrate it could be done. The new Stage III engine (the supercharger hassle comment was out of line)would have been better also, but, well maybe we should be happy they're going to have a SS. Happy motoring!
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by 02lssport
Mar 14, 2003 (6:58 pm)
regfootball - "he meant to say 'band-aid'. "
 
Do you want me to name all of the cars (foreign and domestic) that come with forced induction from the factory?
 
Its funny that I don't hear anyone complaining that Saabs, VW's, or Volvo's come with turbo's. Plus Mitsu and Mazda are coming out with turbo cars. Superchargers can be more reliable and drive better without that turbo lag.
 
Band-aid? NOT. You are just a domestic hater.
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by magnetophone
Mar 14, 2003 (7:23 pm)
Well, I'd rather have a Saab, Volvo or VW any day over a Chevy
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by regfootball
Mar 14, 2003 (10:17 pm)
cars are global. there are no domestic cars and no foreign cars. get past the homerism buddy.
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by atbear
Mar 15, 2003 (12:09 am)
Saab is made by GM....
 
anyways.. y'all are without hope or reason...
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by johnclineii
Mar 15, 2003 (2:40 am)
If SAAB is made by GM, then Volvo is made by Ford. And it is a very short hop to Intrepid is made by Mercedes.
 
As was said in the parent group for quite some time:
 
IMPALA
 
On with the show...(SHO?)
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by magnetophone
Mar 15, 2003 (4:23 pm)
I know Saab's a GM product. I still like Saab regardless of that.
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Band-aids by vcjumper
Mar 15, 2003 (6:07 pm)
Don't forget Kompressor equiped MB's. Why don't they just make them as powerful without them? Just aweful . I mean look how happy Audi S4 buyers/enthusiasts where when the new S4 was announced with a NA V8 rather than a TT v6.
 
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by regfootball
Mar 16, 2003 (12:17 am)
yeah the kompressor Benzs are a way to sell a 'starter' 4 cylinder Benz that won't fall on its arse from a dead stop. Then they can advertise a Cclass 'starting at 29,900!' even though they just want to get you in the showroom to see the v6 model at 8 grand more.
 
I'm not so much opposed to turbos and superchargers in four cylinders as the fours usually have very small displacement. A saab turbo 4 is 2 litres. I wouldn't expect 265hp out of a 4 cyl non turbo.
 
But in the v6 game, I think the basic design of the motor (valvetrain) and size (displacement) should be enough to get serious horsepower without really needing a supercharger or turbo. Shoould be able to get 240hp or so without one.

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