Chevy Impala 2004 Redesign - READ ONLY

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#153 of 233 by johnclineii Mar 05, 2003 (3:30 pm)
Let's see. There are rumors that the Marauder is on its last legs. And what colour did it come in at first? ONLY black. So what is Chevy doing to the SS? You guessed it. I bet 2004 Grand Prix GTP's come in white. I know Mazda6's do.
#154 of 233 To johnclineii by jpstax Mar 05, 2003 (3:38 pm)
Here is link to the '04 GTP. Color appears to be a shade of silver: http://www.edmunds.com/future/2004/pontiac/grandprix/100076346/ph- - otos.html?tid=edmunds.f.review.leftsidenav..3.Pontiac*
#155 of 233 by johnclineii Mar 05, 2003 (3:41 pm)
Yeah, but the SS comes ONLY in black. My point is that the GTP will no doubt come in many colours, white being ONE of them! And it IS available, colour code 40U, name Ivory!
#156 of 233 by regfootball Mar 05, 2003 (3:44 pm)
actually, i read that the marauder was indeed killed. Ford needs to learn to make auto trannies that actually help acceleration and maybe not lie about their horsepower either.
#157 of 233 To johnclineii by jpstax Mar 05, 2003 (3:51 pm)
I wasn't disputing your statement. I merely wanted to point out that you WERE correct in stating that the '04 GTP would probably be available in OTHER colors, not just black (like the Impala SS). The site I showed a link to just happened to show a SILVER colored '04 GTP. I'm sure the car WILL be available in white, and a lot of other colors as well.
#158 of 233 by johnclineii Mar 05, 2003 (3:54 pm)
I know, and thanks! No harm, no foul! (and no black SS's for me, thanks!)
#159 of 233 A Black-Only SS? by kirbstoy Mar 13, 2003 (4:10 pm)
Black only, huh? That will go over well in Northern California's 112* days in the summer! Besides, Chevy will raise the price so high for the old technology, you might as well buy the Maxima, available in numerous colors, and with a lot better long-term frequency-of-repair history! Or, buy the new Accord for less money and 240 HP without the hassle of a supercharger. See ya Chevy!
#160 of 233 by atbear Mar 13, 2003 (7:10 pm)
"you might as well buy the Maxima, available in numerous colors, and with a lot better long-term frequency-of-repair history!" I'd like to see those long-term repair numbers please.... don't have them? Didn't think so. If you don't like the black only SS for '04, then wait til '05... Or get the new Grand Prix, which is EASILY the best car in the class. Hello Pontiac. BTW there is no "hassle of the supercharger".. where'd you get that from?
#161 of 233 by regfootball Mar 13, 2003 (7:44 pm)
he meant to say 'band-aid'.
#162 of 233 HP by garnes Mar 14, 2003 (7:33 am)
The new Accord is 240 HP and what - 212 lb-ft of torque vs a very low end 280 lb-ft for a SC 3.8 and 225 for a non SC engine. That 240 is only available at quite high rpms too - 6250. Even more telling, the peak torque of 212 is available at a very high 5000 rpms. Peak numbers are only a fraction of the picture. Please also consider that the BMW 330's (3 liter 6 cylinder) produce "only" 225 HP and 214 lb-ft of torque. Gee, what's the matter with those performance minded BMW engineers? - can't keep up with Honda? Well, that 225 comes in at 5900 and the torque of 214 is available at a much much lower 3500 rpms. Don't get me wrong, the Honda is an awesome engine, but you just can't look at peak numbers. Even with the rpm's known, you still don't know if the peak torque occurs at a spike in the curve or if the torque curve is very flat. The total power curve and the gearing strategy matter a lot. Unfortunately, most of the public just looks at peak numbers - same for magazines. Also, cars are sent to the magazines for "first drive" hype and the car performs incredibly (of course) only to perform less incredibly in later "comparison" tests 6 months later with other cars. Worse, 0 to 60 is all the focus and the "street start" (C&D tests a 5 to 60 street start that eliminates the gains from a trick launch - it is more indicative of real driving experience/performance) is much lower for some cars. Example: the WRX tested well under 6 seconds in C&D to 0 to 60, but the 5 to 60 number was 7.4. Hmmmm. I just don't see any intelligence in this constant "bash" mentality sometimes displayed on some boards. If you don't own an Impala or care to own one in the future, why deposit your refuse here? Do you also hang around the grocery store and ridicule those that buy foods you don't like (for whatever "reason")? This "old technology" stuff is goofy. I have both a DOHC (4 cam), 32 valve V8 car and the Impala with the 3.8. I love them both and don't find the 3.8 lacking in any respect. I find it to deliver plenty of power with lots of low end torque, incredible fuel economy, and a great value as part of a nicely equipped, very roomy, safe, full sized comfortable car.