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BMW 5 Series, Sedan, Wagon
#141 of 540 toronto_guy
Apr 22, 2003 (4:17 pm)
All car manufacturers run "Test Mules" for many months prior to the start of actual production. When I lived in the Montvale/Woodcliff Lake area of northern New Jersey, I routinely saw new Mercedes-Benz and BMW mules as early as 6 months prior to the start of production. Not to jump the gun any further, but when I worked for MBUSA, we had prototypes of the (then) new W210 E-Class as early as late 1995 (we did not start driving them undisguised until about June 1996); it wasn't released until the fall of 1996.
Did I see a test mule? I would bet money on it. If you check around, you will find that there are pictures all over the internet of the new 5-Series being tested in southern Germany, Austria, Switzerland, and at least one (picture that is) that I saw from France.
Another item; if you check the "Infiniti G35 Coupe" discussion, message number 67, dated 10-June-2002, you will find a post that I made with a link to pictures that I took of actual G35 Coupes. While I have no idea of when they went into production, the discussions of the time indicated that the G35 Coupe wouldn't be in production for at least 3 to 6 months.
Did I see a new E60? Yes. Do I like it? No. Do I wish I had my camera handy? Yes.
#142 of 540 New 5-Series... by shipo
Apr 22, 2003 (9:33 pm)
How long would it take for us to hear you say "that styling of new 5 series is growing on me ...."?
Apr 23, 2003 (12:36 am)
Aren't you off about a year on the W210 E-Class? It went on sale in late 1995 for the 1996 model year. You mean 1994 is when you all had one right?
Apr 23, 2003 (4:33 am)
Hmmmm, well I was there during both years, and for some reason my mind says 1995/1996, however, it seems the facts say otherwise. Oops!
Thanks for the "Heads Up".
Apr 23, 2003 (6:45 am)
outselling their predecessors
That's not a tough enough standard. Do they have more market share then their predecessors when they were brand new? That would actually mean something.
The A6 a box on wheels? It's the opposite, far more rounded and stylish than anything in its class. Nothing boxy about it. The Avants look just as good.
#146 of 540 5-Series ? All Wheel Drive in 2004
Apr 23, 2003 (4:30 pm)
I had read various sites in the past that discussed all wheel drive availability on the 2004 5-Series. I live in the snow belt and I would really like this feature but find the 330xi to be a little too small. Any knowledge of if and when the 5-Series may have all wheel drive would be greatly appreciated.
Apr 23, 2003 (7:37 pm)
this new 5 is a nice design...except....why does the front look so much like a peasant Grand Am/Prix? Not surprising since the Z4's grille and headlights were lifted from a LeSabre. The hood and the trunk are too long also, what's the deal, are 70's car proportions coming back? Shorten the hood, lengthen the greenhouse, and enlarge the freaking doors.
And why the horizontal dash? Not real 'cockpit' like. Don't much care for the "NFL referee instant replay viewing station" in the middle of the dash.
Whatever happened to a driver oriented interior? This thing is starting to take on the look of a late 70's early 80's Buick.
Apr 24, 2003 (2:16 am)
Useless comparisons by all means. If you cannot identify a BMW when you see one...
Isn't the front grille telling enough? You cannot mistake it for any other car. Even the Z4 has this oh so unique grille design. Copied by many, never equalled.
Why, oh why are people so reluctant to change?
Apr 24, 2003 (3:45 pm)
Z4 = Le Sabre.
#150 of 540 Geez! It's going to be a great car, PERIOD!
Apr 24, 2003 (6:02 pm)
Fact: The new 7 series is outselling its predecessor. Fact: When the 7 series changed body styles, everyone yelped, and whined.
Fact: The predictions of the 7 Series' demise due to the new styling were WRONG
Fact: The new 7 series has caught on with the public.
The above will hold true for the new 5 series as well. It is going to be a great car. And, it will always be a BMW! I can't wait to see one in person. I hope I am able to purchase one. I am going to look into European Delivery to see if I can swing one. Does anyone know what the ED price will be for the new 04?