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Pontiac Grand Prix, Sedan
Jul 26, 2003 (4:37 pm)
2005 GP get a V8 - I'd be interested in the source of the information. Sort of makes you wonder if they are going to kill the Bonneville or go after a specialty vehicle in each segment.
As for the interior of the 2004 GP, it seems a bit more cockpit like, but I also have a tight fit reaching for the seat controls on our 2001 GMC Yukon.(and it's not like I have Popeye size arms!) I'm still a bit perplexed that Lutz let the interior finishes go to production like they are. But then again it's a matter of tastes.
Jul 26, 2003 (6:31 pm)
Lets hope they do the right thing and if they put a v8 in any cars besides the Bonnie and GTO, they put it in a RWD sedan.
#242 of 249 New V8 engines for GM cars
Aug 04, 2003 (2:37 pm)
I saw this posted in the Chevy Impala forum:
"Automotive News has reported in its August 4 issue that the 2006 Impala will have an optional V8, probably a 275 hp 4.8L V8. The car will probably remain front wheel drive. The article did not say what the other engines will be, but I would not be surprised if the 200 hp 3.5L OHV V6 from the 2004 Malibu were standard. GM is also introducing a new 3.9L OHV V6 for the 2006 model year that could go into the Impala."
The '05 GP may be getting these same motors before Chevy gets them. I also read where the normally aspirated and supercharged 3.8 liter Series III engines will eventually be phased out.
Aug 04, 2003 (6:31 pm)
3.8 has 9 lives
Aug 10, 2003 (6:30 am)
Based on what I read and speaking to industry insiders. There are no Plans to put forth v8's into any of the W body vehicles. In fact the Chevrolet branded autos (Monte Carlo SS, Impala SS) are only getting the series II 6 cylinder supercharged 3800 used in previous model grand prix's. The bonneville will be getting the new v8 but no plans YET for the Grand Prix, and chevy's.
Aug 11, 2003 (11:20 am)
That the Supercharged SSEi Bonneville, will be dropped and replaced by the Bonneville GPX V8 (saw it at the autoshow in March).
Sep 01, 2003 (3:56 pm)
GP, How're you liking your GT2 these days? I'm looking at the same choice, GT2 vs GTP, I want the side air bags and those come only on the 2 or GTP. There's definitely the matter of a few grand, I have a Regal LS now and as you state the power of the 3.8 is plenty adequate for almost everything, plus 35 mpg (is that Canadian or US gallons?) is pretty dadblamed good. I was thinking of black, white, or grey. What did you think of the green? You got the leather seats? Sunroof? How close to dealer cost and what incentives did you get? What are the standard tires? Thanks for your feedback.
Sep 01, 2003 (5:20 pm)
Over the labor day weekend, Pontiac - GMC took out a full page add with their incentives for the holiday weekend. The 2004 GP was advertised as have $3000 in total rebates. They didn't have any fine print or explanation of the rebate breakdown. I've seen the $1500 on the Pontiac site, there is a $1000 loyalty rebate, but I'm trying to figure what the additional $500 is from.
ps: saw some photos of the 2004 GTO posted on the GTO board. Check out posting 329 and click on the links.
#248 of 249 lamronh49
Sep 02, 2003 (11:36 am)
After putting on 6000 km or so, the 3.8 normally aspirated isn't what I would call PLENTY adequate, but just adequate. It needs a lot of rev's to get any torque out of it. An extra 20 hp or so would be most welcome. But its not a dog either.
Standard tires are P225-60R-16. GTP gets you into P225-55R-17.
GT2 adds 4-wheel ABS, aluminmum wheels, power seats with optional power lumbar, Magnasteer power steering, traction assist, tire inflation monitor, Lifestyle pkg. includes front passenger folding seatback (folds forward into a "desk", cargo mat, cargo net and covered cargo storage, Premium Light Group: includes front and rear reading lamps, driver and passenger illuminated visor mirrors, rear assist grips and overhead console, leather covered steering wheel with radio controls, overhead console, & optional head-curtain side air bags ( extra cost, around $800.00 CDN as I recall). The GT2 add-on is well worth the extra cost compared to the GT1.
I only added leather & info. technology display (head up display and enhanced trip computer). Never been too fussy on the sun roof, and the chromed wheels for a grand didn't particularly impress me.
Highway mpg is in US gal. It's rated at 33 mpg(US) or 40 mpg(Imperial). I am pretty impressed, but that is with cruise on & I have a pretty soft foot, besides. However as soon as you get into city stop & go driving, or if you get aggressive at all, it drops like a lead baloon. I'm averaging city/hwy about 50/50 and getting about 30mpg(US) overall, but like i said I am very soft on the accelerator and brakes.
The dealer is a buddy, so I got a pretty good price, but at the time I bought, most other dealers were selling them at mfg. list price, no discounts at all since there was a ton of 2003 inventory to get rid of & very few 2004 in stock.
Don't ask me about color. Whatever turns your crank. You have to see them in person, though, as the brochure does not show the colours well.