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#428 of 576 They are HERE.........
Mar 13, 2003 (4:57 am)
well, at least one them. For those who live in Fairfax, VA, Brown's Nissan on Rt50 just got a delivery of ONE '04 maxima yesterday (03/12).
I happened to stopped by the dealer yesterday and saw the car there. It's an automatic SE in Spirited Bronze w/black fabric interior. People were lining up to test drive it. I was among the first to test drive it.
1. the exterior was kinda refreshing, front to back.
2. that "nasty" front grill logo doesn't look all that bad. It kinda blend in with the color on this particular car. So choose your color wisely.
3.the interior layout, IMO, is definitely not as clean and nice as the '03.
4.the engine is a notch above that of the '03 in term of smoothness and quiet. The car pulled like a train. And the transmission (5spd auto) is also smoother.
5.I used the autostick(?) function also, and found it to be quite good. It can start in 1st, and will stay there until you upshift.
Now, the bad part: they wanted MSRP PLUS $1995 markup for the car. So I was like are you smoking crack?!?!?!?!?!?
Mar 13, 2003 (8:20 am)
I too saw several new Maximas at my local dealer. Unlike others, I thought they looked exactly like the pictures, except perhaps even larger than expected. I really don't like the front end, although the "tooth" grille is only part of the problem. I find the headlights pretty blah, and the lower fascia treatment with the wraparound cornering lights is downright ugly, IMHO. In profile and from the the rear, I see Lincoln Town Car; certainly less offensive than the front end, but not good for a car with sporting pretensions. I only looked in the windows, but the pod-style gauge cluster looked cool, and I like the new Nissan/Infiniti steering wheel -- small diameter and thick.
I think you're going to be seeing very few Maximas loaded up all the way to Journey or Elite package levels. Of the four on the lot that I saw, only one was over $30K. Most were cloth with sunroof and audio; one had just audio and the skyview roof.
#430 of 576 RE: Prayerfor
Mar 13, 2003 (4:09 pm)
I agree with you on the Lincoln town car deal! I also agree it looks just like the photos and I just dont care for it!
Mar 13, 2003 (7:30 pm)
a new Maxima at Passport Nissan in Marlowe Heights MD tonight and I'm still out on a verdict. They had two black SL's with the same options. From the front the car favors a CTS, just a little less boxy in the front. The grill looked fine with the black and blended very well.
The interior had very nice leather, but the center console looked like it was just slapped on. It's not inviting you to touch any of the buttons for climate control which seemed too small, especially the diagrams on the buttons.
the 5th gen has the console that comes down and out to you, why not the 6th?
The price for these after they marked up the hell out of it was 34k for one and 32k for the other. the 32k had just three options on it: Sunroof, and two others that I can't recall. Both had the sunroof though.
I can't stand Passport. They don't even say hello when they see you. No customer engagement at all.
I gonna contact my dealer to set-up a test drive soon.
#432 of 576 MSRP plus? C'mon!
Mar 13, 2003 (7:42 pm)
I like the Maxima 04 and 03 for that matter. Loved them, honestly since the late 80s.
But MSRP plus? I am sure there are some out there that would go for it but it will not last. I just do not see this car having the "wowee-gotta-have-it" factor for that to last that long.
A Z -- it might last 6 months. A Honda Ody - maybe a while.
But there are just too many Max's out there - new and used - for MSRP plus or even MSRP to last very long.
I see the max as a sensible purchase. A compromise purchase. Analytical. Not the sort of thing that hits the reptillian remnant of the human brain that is SO necessary to irrational impulse purchasing.
A car for someone who wants something bigger and nicer and just plain different than the perfectly fine Camrys and Accords driven by the folks who do not read car mags. But not an all out insane passionate purchase like a Mitsu Evo or a Porsche.
Just a nice sensible car for someone who wants more than enough! But give it to me at a good price or I'll be walking my sensible shoes somewhere else.
#433 of 576 Quote from dealers
Mar 13, 2003 (8:48 pm)
I received quote from two dealers:
1)"At this point, there is minimal to no discount on the 2004's but it is my job to sell cars and I will be happy to work out a special deal for you."
2)"I can sell an 04 Maxima for 4% over invoice. I think this is a very competitve price. We are the largest Nissan dealer in 13 states and will not lose a deal on price."
I'll be there (#2) this Sat for a test drive.
#434 of 576 nowak and jumku
Mar 13, 2003 (9:15 pm)
Nowak, nicely put. Love your analysis, which by way, probably represents the mental gymnastics of many Max buyers, someone who prefers something a bit more than an average Camry or Accord, but not crazy enough to splurge on the extravagant unnecessaries.
Jimku, 4% over invoice over for a spanking new 04 Max is not bad, considering you will be driving an "attention getter" that no one in the neighbor has. This plays into Nowak's philosophy (may be mine as well) that a Max owner does not mind spending a bit more, but not wastefully more.
#435 of 576 Don't go for that MSRP Plus BS
Mar 13, 2003 (10:25 pm)
Carmax in Greenville, SC is already knocking $1000 off MSRP. You can get a deal on one! Do NOT PAY MSRP!!!
Mar 14, 2003 (5:01 am)
Test drove an 04 SL with the Driver preferred package yesterday afternoon. The interior feels about the same as the prior generation, maybe a touch larger but the exterior feels almost Avalon or Lesabre size.
The test drive still reminds me of the Maxima in handling and acceleration feel but on a much bigger feeling platform. Not bad, just didn't inspire any "passion for driving" in me like the previous generations did. It really felt just like a bigger Maxima.
After driving Maxima's for the last 8 1/2 years (95 GLE & 00 SE) I see where Nissan's going with their product cycle.
The Altima is clearly targeting the "sport driver" in the product line now (3.5 SE) and the Maxima has really gone significantly more up market than before (both in price and size).
The mass of buttons on the dash didn't appeal to me at first glance but after I got comfortable using them, the functionality is fine. Still not sure about the look of the car overall. If you compare it to the Avalon, it wins hands down. I just can't see myself driving one of these new 04's.
Maybe I'll feel different after I drive an 04 SE?
Mar 14, 2003 (6:22 am)
I've gone to the nissan motors web site and searched my area dealer inventories.
I am seeing that SE's are probably 3 or 4 to 1 over SL's in terms of units in inventory.
I guess the SE is expected to be the big seller. I am actually looking for a less expensive Lexus GS 300 type vehicle and am hoping the 04 SL will fir that bill. Anyone out there that has seen one have any ideas as to how the 04 will compare to a GS 300?