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#360 of 1033 5 cyl crew cab by dirkdaddy Dec 28, 2004 (8:29 pm)
Just talked to a buddy who bought a 5 cyl crew cab 4x4 and he loves it. Had a 13 year old s10 4x4 he babied but finally started costing a lot to maintain. Has not had problems.   GM "generally" (pun intended) puts crap tires on its non-performance cars. Why they do this to save $20 a car when it makes the vehicles behave so badly is beyond understanding of consumers.   My dad had a Citation (talk about stellar designs) that came with cheap Generals and they were horrible in the rain, the car would like to 360 - of course some of this was crappy brake system....   Dirk Replies to this message: corvette (Dec 28, 2004 11:05 pm) ocmike3 (Dec 29, 2004 9:51 pm)
#361 of 1033 Re: 5 cyl crew cab [dirkdaddy] by corvette Dec 28, 2004 (11:05 pm)
Replying to: dirkdaddy (Dec 28, 2004 8:29 pm) GM "generally" (pun intended) puts crap tires on its non-performance cars.   ========================================================   Most carmakers put crap tires on most of their cars. It comes down to the lowest bidder (except factory Michelins, which I suspect are sold cheaply to the factory, just not to consumers who want an OEM replacement tire)... I was astonished to see the Pirelli PZero Nero M&S is OEM on the new Mustang GT. It's currently the top of its class in the Tire Rack survey.
#362 of 1033 Re: any 4 cyl reviews? [stephen] by panther8 Dec 29, 2004 (6:09 pm)
Replying to: stephen (Dec 23, 2004 6:36 pm) Once again I will say- The General Tires on the Colorado's are complete junk! My truck vibrated from day one with General Tires. The dealer replaced the tires with the same type- still vibrated. I replaced with Goodyear RT/S- No vibration. The General looked like they were egg shaped. If the Generals are so great why are the GM engineers working on a more suitable tire. I've talked to other Colorado owners on a Colorado site, and they all complain about the tires. I bought Goodyears, because I believe in buying American. I don't want my money going to France. So read your reviews, I know quality when I see it. Replies to this message: corvette (Dec 29, 2004 6:15 pm) stephen (Dec 30, 2004 3:48 pm)
#363 of 1033 Re: any 4 cyl reviews? [panther8] by corvette Dec 29, 2004 (6:15 pm)
Replying to: panther8 (Dec 29, 2004 6:09 pm) General Tire is owned by Continental, a German corporation. Michelin is based in France. Both manufacture tires at plants in the United States.
#364 of 1033 Re: 5 cyl crew cab [dirkdaddy] by ocmike3 Dec 29, 2004 (9:51 pm)
Replying to: dirkdaddy (Dec 28, 2004 8:29 pm) Most mfrs put the lowest price tire on a car they think they can get away with. My wife's $38k Volvo wagon came with cheapo Continentals (Owns General tire also) and I've gotten better tires on Pontiacs & Chevys which I paid a whole lot less for.
#365 of 1033 Convincing to Buy Colorado by dontshopthewal Dec 30, 2004 (10:59 am)
I have been trying to convince someone I know to buy a Colorado Crew-Cab 5-cyl. for a while now. He insists he wants an Avalanche, but they aren't they nicest looking trucks and I know it wouldn't be the right truck for him anyway.   Any ideas on how I could convince him? Replies to this message: ocmike3 (Dec 30, 2004 11:56 am) dmathews3 (Dec 30, 2004 6:13 pm)
#366 of 1033 Re: Convincing to Buy Colorado [dontshopthewal] by ocmike3 Dec 30, 2004 (11:56 am)
Replying to: dontshopthewal (Dec 30, 2004 10:59 am) I wouldn't try to convince him too much; but I've owned full size Ext Cab, S-10, Yukon and now the Canyon Crew 4WD Z71 w/5 cyl. (over 15k miles) The positives I see with my Canyon: - Much better mileage than full size - If you need the truck part; the avalanche isn't as convenient. (The rails interfere with using the box fully. i.e. filling with front end loader, loading and hauling bulky items/trash...) - Its as comfortable as full size unless you gotta haul 5/6 adults.
#367 of 1033 Re: GM is funny.... [petem143] by moparbad Dec 30, 2004 (1:07 pm)
Replying to: petem143 (Dec 24, 2004 4:30 pm) Try talking to one of us who actually own one. I put no creedence in what the Edmunds reviewer says either. I drive a Colorado every day and wouldn't trade it for any of its competitors. I've owned the S10, Tacoma and Frontier. When the Colorado arrived I planned to purchase one. After I drove it several times I came to the conclusion that it was not even ready to compete with my 2003 Tacoma, and it is far behind the 05 Dakota, 05 Frontier and 05 Tacoma. The biggest problem with the Colorado is the cheap interior quality or materials and crude design. Fix the interior and I'll forgive GM for the I5, the lack of a composite bed, the lack of a factory spray in bedliner, the lack of a sunroof option, the lack or bed cleats, and etc.. And it is not just my opinion. Nearly every review of the Colorado/Canyon that compares it with Tacoma, Dakota and Frontier ranks the Chevy/GMC last. My GM Card earnings continue to burn a hole in my pocket. Silverado is a credible (more than) competitor in the fullsize truck market, still waiting for GM to get serious about the small/midsize trucks. Replies to this message: petem143 (Jan 24, 2005 5:52 pm) ocmike3 (Jan 29, 2005 4:49 pm) moparbad (Jan 30, 2005 9:03 pm) and 2 more...
#368 of 1033 Re: any 4 cyl reviews? [panther8] by stephen Dec 30, 2004 (3:48 pm)
Replying to: panther8 (Dec 29, 2004 6:09 pm) My experience with the General tires thus far on my Colorado (750 miles) is that they are beautifully smooth, excellent tracking, perfect handling, amazing traction. But....I've only had the truck three weeks.   stephen
#369 of 1033 Re: Convincing to Buy Colorado [dontshopthewal] by dmathews3 Dec 30, 2004 (6:13 pm)
Replying to: dontshopthewal (Dec 30, 2004 10:59 am) I had a Avalanche for 2 years before trading in on Trailblazer last spring. I now have a Colorado Z71 Crew that I traded a Cavalier for in Sept. There is no comparison between a Avalanche and a Colorado. Though I love my Colorado it isn't a Avalanche, of course it's 10 grand cheaper, smaller, and doesn't ride as well either, even though it rides good. There is just no way to compare these two vehicles. One more thing, you can't get 1/2 the options on the Colorado as you can buy on the Av.

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