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| I agree with everyone saying that $85k is too pricey for the RS6. BMW M5 starts at $70k and I doubt the RS6 will beat it in terms of overall package. The new E55 is supposed to be around $75k and has a lot more HP and torque (469 and 516, respectively) as well as a quicker 0-60 time. Is AWD really worth $10k? I don't think so. | |
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| I recall that MT clocked the M5 at ~4.65s 0-60 a while back. If the RS6 is "supposed" to do 4.6 then thats a negligible difference. Also note that the Bimmer has 50 less HP and still makes the same time. | |
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it has a manual. the rs6 has a stronger engine, but the automatic helps make up for the difference. the wrong way. |
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I'm wondering, is there any reason to buy one of these cars other than for bragging rights? I assumed that the mentality was, "my sedan would beat your sports car if I raced" but we all know that none of these sedans are going to see any track time. The sedans are larger and can hold more people, but I wouldn't want to be doing 0-60 in under 5 seconds with my children in the back seat, or a friend in the passenger seat. So, what's the point? The only thing I can think of is price. Seriously... $70-90k is CHEAP. Tell me how many other 400-500hp cars you can get for that price. Want something with the twisting power of a E55? You'll have to get a Viper (which has its vices and costs at least as much) or maybe a Ferrari that will cost two or two and a half times as much. It's almost as though having the two extra doors and the less sexy sedan styling results in a 50% price savings versus the same ingredients packaged in a "sports car" form factor. (i.e. M5 vs. Z8, E55 vs SL55) Are these German supersedans basically the German supersedan equivalent of a Camaro? i.e. Cheap copious amounts of power at the expense of a chassis that makes the most of that power? |
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i see your point, and even agree somewhat. but to use the word "cheap" when talking about an rs6, an m5, an e55, etc. seems a bit silly. and i don't think a porsche owner, for example, would consider the sl55 to be a sportscar. actually, i don't know who would. grand tourer? sure. sports car? no. |
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Saying the M5 is just as fast as the RS6 with 50 less hp just silly. Thats like saying the RS6 is better because it can produce more power with a smaller engine. There are so many factors that come into play that comparing numbers is just pointless. |
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| To those who think/thought that the RS6 would never give an M5 a run for it's money, take a look at the comparo in the May 2003 edition of Car and Driver. It's a real shame the RS6 doesn't have a 6-speed manual tranny, then it might get close to a 4.0 0-60 time... | |
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All Audi RS-6 sceptics .. know that RS-6 has a legacy of R8 racers, winners of LE Mans race in 2000, 01 and 02. Where were BMWs.. All Beemers could see were taillights.. |
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| I drove an RS-6 yesterday. It was unbelievable! Unfortunately the price and low residuals at 3 and 4 years were also unbelievable. Given that I would be buying( not leasing because of the low residuals) a new '03 in 12/03 I feel I should be able to get it at or near invoice not MSRP. Despite the greatness of the car they're not exactly hopping out of the dealerships and many have backed out of orders. Consider also that the invoice price of the RS-6 is still above the MSRP of a nicely equipped 03" M5. Does anyone out there have recent experience in purchasing a RS-6. | |
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