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Audi RS 6, BMW M5, Mercedes-Benz E-Class, Sedan
#18 of 37 fusion4you is a moron
Nov 10, 2002 (3:01 am)
Ever hear of the term "sleeper?" This is a great sleeper car. And, can you fit 4 other people in a ZO6? I know I can't. This car will run 12 second quarter-mile times and over 160mph (euro versions) stock, just think about the possibilities with ECU programming, nitrous oxide, etc. At $85K it is a little pricey, but look at Ferraris and all those "supercars," they cost much more than that for moderately more performance, and much less economy. I'd personally love to see the RS6 Avant make it to the U.S., and a 6-speed manual.
By the way, if they built a rear-wheel drive V10 300M, they'd sell more than they could build, just look at the demand GM had for Impalas from '94-'96. Discontiuing the B-body was one of their biggest mistakes.
#19 of 37 No Audi will ever dethrone a BMW
Nov 14, 2002 (11:14 am)
Certainly not the M5
#20 of 37 To: Green Demon - post #6
Nov 14, 2002 (11:21 am)
Leave it to an Audi/Japanese car fan to make his decision based on 1/4 mile times. I thought that mentality was limited to Trans Am owners. Put them both on a road course and I guarantee the M5 comes out on top.
#21 of 37 Where is the Avant
Nov 19, 2002 (8:40 am)
Wy is it that good old US of A does not get the hot cars of the world. The RS6 Avant, the Nissan Skyline, the WRX STi. The list goes on.....
Why are we so neglected?? The RS6 Avant is probably the coolest car on earth. Pack your family and all the luggage you need for a weekend and take of with speed and style.
I had them or driven alot of different cars- I use to road race motorcycles and I driven cars all over the world. From DKW and Saab 2-strokes to some pretty cool exotics. I have not had the pleasure of owning an exotic (not yet). Budget does not allow. However, thanks to Audi we now can have a near go fast experience in a car that is practical too. Talk about having your cake and eat it too.
I use to own a C4 vette (can you read garbage)..Ones a Vette never again. The people that cherish their Vettes also have a #3 sticker intheir window and still dthink that Schumacher is a chevy dealer.
I do admit that the z06 is a hell of bang for the buck go fast car. But it still lacks refinement. It is still a toy, see it on every corner sporstcar. I have two children-so that rules out the weekend trip to your local roadrace course.
The RS6 you can go there in style and comfort. Run circles around 99% of the cars and pack up your family and go home again. What a car...If I only could get the AVant with a 6spd
Happy Motoring and stay out of the left lane if someone is trying to pass...
#22 of 37 $85k??? Audi must be kidding!
Nov 30, 2002 (5:54 pm)
I agree with everyone saying that $85k is too pricey for the RS6. BMW M5 starts at $70k and I doubt the RS6 will beat it in terms of overall package. The new E55 is supposed to be around $75k and has a lot more HP and torque (469 and 516, respectively) as well as a quicker 0-60 time. Is AWD really worth $10k? I don't think so.
#23 of 37 Audi not any faster
Jan 16, 2003 (2:15 pm)
I recall that MT clocked the M5 at ~4.65s 0-60 a while back. If the RS6 is "supposed" to do 4.6 then thats a negligible difference. Also note that the Bimmer has 50 less HP and still makes the same time.
Jan 18, 2003 (1:12 am)
it has a manual.
the rs6 has a stronger engine, but the automatic helps make up for the difference. the wrong way.
#25 of 37 What's the point?
Jan 18, 2003 (8:52 am)
I'm wondering, is there any reason to buy one of these cars other than for bragging rights? I assumed that the mentality was, "my sedan would beat your sports car if I raced" but we all know that none of these sedans are going to see any track time. The sedans are larger and can hold more people, but I wouldn't want to be doing 0-60 in under 5 seconds with my children in the back seat, or a friend in the passenger seat. So, what's the point?
The only thing I can think of is price. Seriously... $70-90k is CHEAP. Tell me how many other 400-500hp cars you can get for that price. Want something with the twisting power of a E55? You'll have to get a Viper (which has its vices and costs at least as much) or maybe a Ferrari that will cost two or two and a half times as much. It's almost as though having the two extra doors and the less sexy sedan styling results in a 50% price savings versus the same ingredients packaged in a "sports car" form factor. (i.e. M5 vs. Z8, E55 vs SL55)
Are these German supersedans basically the German supersedan equivalent of a Camaro? i.e. Cheap copious amounts of power at the expense of a chassis that makes the most of that power?
Jan 19, 2003 (4:57 pm)
i see your point, and even agree somewhat. but to use the word "cheap" when talking about an rs6, an m5, an e55, etc. seems a bit silly.
and i don't think a porsche owner, for example, would consider the sl55 to be a sportscar. actually, i don't know who would. grand tourer? sure. sports car? no.