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1960's Ford Falcons

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Crosley by carnut4
Oct 11, 2002 (12:36 am)
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Awesome! I knew there was something different about that car from the picture-those American mags, and that slight rake. Now that's a ride you won't see every day. What did you do to the front suspension-anything?
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Hey Crosley... by andre1969
Oct 11, 2002 (3:47 am)
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...how hard was it to get a Chevy 350 in that Lancer? I know Chrysler had to rework the '64 compacts, compared to the '63's, to get their own 273 in.
 
What kind of tranny do you have in it?
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Chrysler 273 by bhill2
Oct 11, 2002 (11:58 am)
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There was something about that engine that made it hard to fit into a bay. Chrysler had the same problem when they bought Rootes. They couldn't wedge their 273 into the engine bay of the Sunbeam Tiger in place of the Ford 260/289 that was there.
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by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Oct 11, 2002 (3:38 pm)
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If it was heavier than the 260 that would have made the Tiger even worse to drive. It's a bear as it is. Best to steer with the gas pedal.
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by speedshift
Oct 11, 2002 (4:15 pm)
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The 273 is a bigger engine, particularly in width--seven inches wider than the 289. It's also a bit heavier, although I can't remember by how much. The Ford is around 490 lbs., the Chevy small block 560 lbs. so it's somewhere in there.
 
IIRC the 273 is the old polysphere 318 with newer heads circa 1964, which would explain the size of the block, but I may be wrong.
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The 273... by andre1969
Oct 11, 2002 (4:50 pm)
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...was the first of the LA engine blocks. I've heard that it's about 100 lb lighter than the old A (277/301/318/326/and some others, I'm sure) engine. Not sure how much narrower it is, but I can definitely tell the difference between a 318 wideblock and a 318 LA, like what's in my Dart or Gran Fury (or the 360 LA in my NYer).
 
One of the quickest visual cues is that the old A engine had heads and valve covers that had kind of a sawtooth pattern on the outer edges, whereas the LA engine has normal rectangular valve covers.
 
Just from eyeballing it though, the 273/318/360 engine looks bulkier than the Chevy smallblock, which then looks a bit bigger than the Ford smallblock.
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Dodge with Ford & Chevy parts by crosley4
Oct 12, 2002 (3:41 pm)
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There is a fair amount of room in the Lancer.

I installed a custom crossmember with Mustang II suspension into the Dodge.

I used parts that I had around the house for the build up of the Lancer.

My web site is a bit outdated but here it is:
 
http://www.geocities.com/crosley_az/lancer.htm

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Crosley-thanks for posting the pics by carnut4
Oct 13, 2002 (12:02 am)
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Interesting website and pictures.
My Dad had two '48 Crosley wagons-the first he bought for $40-the second, better one for $100.
This was in 1957-58. These both had the cast iron blocks-not the laminated ones.
I remember helping him remove the engine from the first one-after everything was unbolted, he just stepped inside the engine bay and lifted it out!
Interesting engine, that was used in many different applications.
Always interesting to see different stuff!
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Falcons by crosley4
Oct 13, 2002 (2:33 pm)
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I figure I should post a photo of my Falcon.

1962 model. Good running 170, 3 speed. I have a found a 78 200 and C-4 tranny for it.

Little rust (6 x 9 hole) in the front floors

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by grbeck
Oct 14, 2002 (7:24 am)
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That photo brings back memories! When I was a kid my grandmother had a black 1962 four-door sedan...her car had the wheel covers with the holes around the perimeter. The front suspension always squeaked, which, as I recall, was common with early 1960s Falcons.
 
She drove it until early 1969, when she was rear-ended by a late 1960s Chrysler in a chain-reaction collision. The collision damaged the gas tank (it was leaking), so she bought a 1966 Dodge Dart 270 sedan.

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