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283 messages, Last post on Oct 15, 2008 at 5:00 AM
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can anyone tell me how much am i looking forward to spend for a new 645ci convertible? is it possible to get one under msrp? |
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| You should use the Edmunds's Pricing System. Click on "new cars" up top of this page and follow the directions. It'll give you a "build sheet" for all the options you want, and a "target price" to negotiate for. | |
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i tried edmunds pricing system, but sadly it didnt help much, the tmv always shows same numbers as msrp i tried the same system for an m3 and the result: well, also msrp for tmv, but i checked dealers manually and they gave me a quote of $2k over invoice. any other way to get a price? dealers insist on sticker thanks |
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WEll what that means is that no one buying a 6 series has been able to bargain under invoice at this point, and that dealers are selling above invoice. Did you try faxing various dealers in your area and making an offer for a certain car with all options you want? |
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Replying to: flptop (Sep 16, 2004 9:50 am) |
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Replying to: pvh3 (May 07, 2004 6:11 am) |
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Replying to: ajrose (Jul 14, 2004 5:07 am) |
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| Oh well. One must make sacrifices. I did finally pull the trigger and have a 6 coupe on order. Decided on black with beige. I have been reading some on the 5 board which questions the active steering and basic sound system. Does anyone have some input on either? | |
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My sister just got a brand new 645 convertible courtesy of the huge raise her husband received. I got to test drive it this weekend. Below are my impressions: 1) Suspension and road feel were great, as one expects in a BMW. I felt that the 6 series drove as surely as the e39 5 series, but with a slightly more forgiving ride, except on sharp bumps, where the ride was a little jarring. I think that jarring was due more to the run flat tires than any flaw in the suspension. 2) Steering was a little numb IMO. I don't know whether that's due to active steering or the run flat tires. I like active steering in theory, just not sure whether it's working as advertised. I think it takes some time to get used to, and I didn't drive the 645 often enough to get used to it. 3) Interior materials. IMO, the materials in the 6 series interior are excellent, certainly better than the materials quality in the e60 525i and 530i that I have seen. I don't know how the 645 interior compares to the 545 as I haven't driven a 545, but I imagine they should be pretty similar. The dashboard and speedometer seem to be extremely similar, if not identical, to my dad's 745Li, so it looks like BMW used the 745i interior in the 645, which would account for its high quality. My only complaint would be with the gray wood finish. I'm sure it's real wood, but gray wood with a high glossy finish made it look fake. 4) Interior design - Other than i-drive, I had no real complaints about the interior design. The automatic window buttons were at a weird angle, but I got used to it. The interior design is certainly better than in my dad's 745Li (first year edition) which is an interior ergonomic mess. I know some of you here state that i-drive 2.0 is better. I have experienced i-drive 1.0 in my dad's 745Li and I assure you that v 1.0 sucks in every conceivable way. I didn't really have time to try out i-drive 2.0, but at this point, I've had such bad experiences with i-drive 1.0 that I just can't see how i-drive is a positive. I fail to see how the additional electronic complexity of i-drive, which increases the likelihood of electronic gremlins and expensive repair costs, is offset by the alleged advantages of i-drive, whatever they are. FWIW, my sister does not like i-drive 2.0. She puts up with it because she has to, but if she had her choice, it'd be gone. 5) Hill descent control - I disliked this function. With the hill descent control slowing the car down whenever my foot was off the pedal, I could no longer hit the gas, ease off, and then hit the gas again. It felt like the car was downshifting into a lower gear every time I took my foot off the gas. BMW is supposed to be a driver's vehicle. I want to control how fast the car goes by hitting the gas, brakes and shifting appropriately. The hill descent control interfered with that. Since my sister's 645 is an automatic combined with the hill descent control, it almost felt like this car was driving itself, so despite the power of the engine and the ride quality of a BMW, this was an incredibly boring car to drive IMO. I wonder what a manual 645 would have been like. 6) Exterior Looks - This is the best of the Bangled cars no doubt. However, I still hate the Bangle butt and rear taillights look contrived IMO. The piece slapped on the top of the Bangle butt looks like the bustle of a fat woman's porky behind IMO; it just sticks out like a sore thumb. Overall: Great car, nice interior, get rid of i-drive and the bustle on the butt and fix the taillights and you have an unbeatable machine. Also, lower the price. |
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at least in my 3 series is meant for slow downhills (such as on snow and ice). It keeps my car less than 5 mph. Maybe they've changed it for the 6 Series or changed what all it is supposed to do, but I thought it was for low speed applications... -Paul |
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