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#9852 of 19336 Subaru announces Legacy Recall
Jul 20, 2001 (6:40 am)
Subaru recalls 180,000 vehicles in 'Salt Belt'
DETROIT (AP) — Subaru of America said Thursday it is recalling certain 1995-1998 and some 1999 Legacy vehicles, which may encounter problems with corrosion on their front springs.
Because of improperly applied paint by a supplier, continued exposure to salt may cause the springs on 180,000 cars to corrode and eventually break, the company said.
If the broken spring end is not contained, it could cause severe damage to the tires.
There have been no reported accidents or injuries attributed to the problem, Subaru said.
The problem is especially acute in states where road salt is used during the winter, and the recall affects only cars in those states.
The so-called "Salt Belt" states are: Connecticut, Delaware, the District of Columbia, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia, and Wisconsin.
Affected owners will be notified by mail. Subaru said it will install a front spring guard on both front struts and replace any broken springs.
Jul 20, 2001 (6:50 am)
when your dealer changed your ATF on your VDC, did they pump out all the fluid or did they just drain and replace 50% of it?? Did they change the filter??
Jul 20, 2001 (8:38 am)
This has become a hot topic. I just called my Subaru dealer and asked on all this stuff. According to him, Subaru does not recommend any synthetics. Then he went on to say that on a manual gear box he did not see a problem. However he really did not recommend it on the Automatic. Furthermore, he said to wait until the 7500 mile service before changing anything to synthetics. Also, he said that the front differential shares fluid. Can anyone confirm this. Thanks.
Jul 20, 2001 (9:58 am)
Yes, Subaru doesn't recommend synthetics. Patti posted a while back that FHI said they still saw a problem with the seals (or something like that). Most reputable oil companies will stand by their products though if you have a problem.
When it's below freezing outside and I get in my car, it's next to impossible to shift with conventional gear oil. With the Amsoil, I get in my car and go no matter what the temp outside is.
I agree on the waiting until 7500 miles or so. The front diff. shares fluid on the 5MT only.
Last winter on the i-club, someone posted that their dealer used a special "winter blend" gear oil because they were having problems shifting. They didn't get specific on what it was though but I suspect it was at least a semi-synthetic.
Jul 20, 2001 (10:06 am)
So it sounds like Dennis is saying that the regular AMSOil 75w90 works great, but he doesn't know about the more expensive Series 2000... Trey's comments on the Cobb Tuning site do indicate that if you're going to use Redline he actually recommends the MT90 fluid. This makes sense, seeing as how the 75w90NS is too thin and slippery which causes gear grinding as the synchros need friction.
Jul 20, 2001 (10:09 am)
They did pump out the old oil, but did not change the filter. They were so strongly in favor of it for the VDC that I did not really challenge them or do more research. I am surprised and a little concerned that there seems to be a lot of discrepancy even among the dealers. Again, they also strongly recommended going to synthetic engine oil at (but not before) 15k miles.
Patti, does SOA have any position here on the best approach and why such a variance between dealers?
Jul 20, 2001 (10:10 am)
that the MT-90 is a GL4 and our cars call for a GL5. Funny though, because a lot of i-clubbers swear by the MT90 and haven't had a problem. I guess they'll find out later on if there are any negative effects.
A couple of i-clubbers have also put ATF into the front diffs and said it works great.
Jul 20, 2001 (11:34 am)
Dennis: I didn't realize our tranny and front diffy share the same gear oil. Cool. One less compartment to worry about.
Dealers operate independently. Though Subaru can make a recommendation, so can the synthetic oil distributors.
Jul 20, 2001 (12:15 pm)
Oh heck yeah the front differential and transmission share oil-- the diff is IN the transmission!
Look at this image from www.b-specusa.com:
That's not a stock gearset, but the idea is the same. The front diff is directly driven by the main shaft. The spline you see sticking out of the differential (pointing up in this image) connects to the right cv joint, and there's one out the other way too for the left cv joint. The front of the tranny (far right) is directly underneath the black box at the center rear of your engine bay. (the torque chamber)
Jul 20, 2001 (12:18 pm)
what I have so far is that I will go with synthetics on the engine and diffs, but, not for a while yet (I have 5000 miles on the car). Maybe between 10K and 15K. As for the ATF, hmm......... so I call my dealer while writing this. They don't push the synthetics, but, they will use them if asked and recommend staying with them once changed. For ATF they led me to believe they don't recommend it "unless you are racing the car". They use Mobil 1 for ATF, do not pump it out - only drain and fill. Didn't give me price though. Oil change with synthetic is $45. The saga continues.