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#7281 of 19285 Re: Subaru 2006 Outback Races When I Start It [dsl24]
Jan 25, 2007 (3:29 pm)
I have a '07 Tribeca and have the same problem with the rpm spiking to about 2500. It doesn't matter if its warm or cold like now. The problem actually began after I took it to the dealer in September for the first checkup. So then I took it to another dealer and they said its normal. Baloney. It never did it before that first service, so why now. Do you still have the racing engine problem or have you been able to fix it?
#7282 of 19285 Dealers pushing unecessary services.
Jan 25, 2007 (5:33 pm)
I have a 05 XT auto with 15,800 miles on it. I am past due for my oil change so I called to make my appt. Dealer tells me they recomended changing the transmission fluid at this mileage . PLEASE! I emailed Subaru and they said that while it's not listed in the maint schedule for this mileage, dealers can make recomendations based on the area you live in. PLEASE. I feel this is Subaru's permission for dealers to perform services that NOT NEEDED . I told service rep, no I don't see a point in messing with something that doesn't need it and may cause a problem because it was done. Anybody else had experiences like this with your Subaru service departments?
#7283 of 19285 Re: Dealers pushing unecessary services. [girlwhogolfs]
Jan 25, 2007 (6:20 pm)
You are very smart to question this. I agree with you 100%, and have seen other people posting here with un-needed (and expensive) maintenance that causes more problems than it cures. Definitely stick to the normal schedule in the owner's manual, and don't let them push the extra maintenance. It's a cash cow for the dealer, and there are a lot of unsuspecting saps who fall for it.
#7284 of 19285 Re: Dealers pushing unecessary services. [girlwhogolfs]
Jan 26, 2007 (10:06 am)
15k? That fluid is probably still clear. At most I would inspect it.
#7285 of 19285 Re: yep [xwesx]
Jan 26, 2007 (2:03 pm)
Well, I decided that I would go the route of getting my car washed at the best car wash around me and get an undercarraige cleaning done too. Believe it or not, this actually helped. Today, I had to drive for a business meeting, warmed up my car (it was actually 0.5 degrees here today..brrrrrr) and NO SMELL. It has been two days and no smell. I think it worked! Now I am kind of embarassed , but thanks to everyone for their help.
On a side note, I finally got my windshield replaced on my car two weeks ago. Two days ago, I was driving down the highway..BANG, a huge rock hit my windshield. Yes, my brand new windshield has a nice new salt stone chip and is now causing a spider affect on the passenger side. Just my luck! Oh well, it is those New England roads in the winter!
#7286 of 19285 The "new" curse.
Jan 26, 2007 (4:19 pm)
On a side note, I finally got my windshield replaced on my car two weeks ago. Two days ago, I was driving down the highway..BANG, a huge rock hit my windshield.
It is the curse!!! My cynicism feels well-fed today.
And, sorry to hear about the windshield - quite frustrating, I am sure. That is how I felt about the windshield on my '69 Chevy (original to this day) when it took its first rock. Granted, it was 30 years old at the time, but I think "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!" pretty much sums it up.
#7287 of 19285 Re: Dealers pushing unecessary services. [girlwhogolfs]
Jan 26, 2007 (11:48 pm)
The Subaru advice that dealers may recommend specific service for particular locales would stack up if the local traffic placed huge strains on your transmission, but that does not appear likely in your area. A check of the colour of the transmission fluid against new cars on their lot is unlikely to show any change. I suspect you are being told little porkies to enhance Service department income.
#7288 of 19285 Do realize
Jan 28, 2007 (9:43 am)
Most dealers barely pay the bills on the profits from new cars. Where they make their money is in their service departments. They can recommend anything they want, it is ultimately the responsibility of the consumer to decide what they want done. Most dealers make it worth your while to get a "combo" service instead of ordering each item ala carte.
#7289 of 19285 Re: [Mr_Shiftright]
Jan 28, 2007 (1:35 pm)
"Blaming the dealer for over-torquing is a rather facile deflection of what could be another problem entirely. The idea that Subaru dealers are blindly bending rotors day after day because trained gorillas are unable to grasp the concept, stretches my own credulity. I feel the answer lies elsewhere and may be a combination of driver habits, types of pad material and possibly even slightly too undersized rotors."
As someone who spent many years in the auto service industry I have to report that paying any attention to the amount of force or "torque" applied when re installing wheels is a once in a lifetime experience for most mechanics. The objective is to move them in and out as fast as possible. Occasionally torque limiters are used on the air guns to minimize over torquing, but those are problematic and can sometimes be overridden. Over torquing can be a serious contributor to rotor warping.
#7290 of 19285 Re: Do realize [paisan]
Jan 28, 2007 (1:52 pm)
"Combo service offers"
The combo offer makes sense if the items in the combo are recommended in the car's service guide and it is time for them. The many dealers I am familiar would sell you Johnson rods and muffler bearings as part of a combo oil change. I recently reviewed the service bills for a friend's two year old Toyota and noted that about 50% of what she had paid for was "imaginary service", or service and products that are not recommended by Toyota. The cost was in excess of $800.00.
It is always best to avoid the dealer completely except for the first service and complex safety issues. Instead find a reputable independent who specializes in your vehicle who will very likely be less expensive and be more attentive to you and the real needs of the vehicle.