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#6036 of 19336 CEL - not sure who or what to trust!!!
Dec 16, 2005 (5:30 pm)
Surprise, surprise! After my 80,000 mile warranty was up on my 2002 Subaru Outback (sedan), my check engine light came on. This is a bit lengthy, I apologize but I have to take you back to about 4 months ago: I started hearing a rattling sound coming from my front end only when lightly accelerating. Several mechanics told me it was the heat shield on the cat conv. and that it wasn't a real concern. I was given the option to have it "ripped off" by one mechanic and didn't feel comfortable with that so declined the offer. The next mechanic said he could tighten it, and so I allowed it but it still continued to rattle. Recently my CEL lit up and I initially thought it was the gas cap (it's happened before) & I followed the steps necessary to clear it up - which didn't work. When I took it in to get an oil change, they hooked it up to there computer and it came up with a cat conv issue. When I left the shop that day, I suddenly started hearing a whistling noise as I increased speed to pass another car. I was told that this would be a symptom of the cat getting clogged and got even more concerned. Today I got the cat replaced and a whole tune up. On my 1 hour drive home from the mechanic, I tested it out and I still hear the whistling (although not as loud) and 45 min into the drive, the CEL lit up again. It's an understatement to say that I am concerned about this. If somebody can shed a little light on this matter it would be GREATLY appreciated!
#6037 of 19336 Re: CEL - not sure who or what to trust!!! [liv4ease]
Dec 17, 2005 (7:53 am)
check air cleaner box sometimes the bottom wont get latched (over looked by the installer)pull up on the air cleaner cover and see if the bottom moves as you pull up .
This can cause whistling and other noises . I never heard a plugged convertor make noise like whistling. Also check air inlet boot for any damage .
#6038 of 19336 Re: 2006 Auto Climate Problem [once_for_all]
Dec 17, 2005 (8:17 am)
There is no fix? My manual still puts out very warm air. Does that mod work that is being offered on the internet?
#6039 of 19336 Don't Pay for Blown Head Gaskets
Dec 17, 2005 (11:15 am)
One cold morning my 2000 Subaru Forester 74k miles failed to heat up the cabin. My check engine had cycled on/off and was on at the time. I noticed the engine temp gage in red zone. I slowed down and temp went down. I decided to go direct to dealer thinking my eng. thermostat was stuck. I asked also for an oil change. The dealer PATRICK SUBARU of Shrewsbury, MA called me to say I needed new head gaskets $1775 and new oxygen sensor $285. I was shocked and said I could not afford it. He said he would talk to his boss and maybe I could get 10% off. I said I still could not afford it and hung up. He also strangely enough asked if I still wanted the oil change. While I was trying to contact my mechanic, he called again and offered 50% off, so I said ok. But I was now very suspicious. I went on line and discovered that blown head gaskets were a common problem for 2.5L SOHC engines, and if you had the dealer add a can of stop leak each time the coolant was serviced, the head gasket warrantee would be extended to 8yrs/100k mi. Next morning I confronted the dealer. He said the reason they agreed to split the cost was due to this common faulty gasket (he didn't say this up-front). I showed him the record of the same dealer adding the stop leak. He showed me the subaru papers that said the full coverage was for gaskets the leaked 'externally' and mine was leaking 'internally'. I went home,called Subaru of America and explained the story. When I said I did not think external vs internal should matter... the gaskets are BAD, he asked for my vehicle VIN number. He called the dealer immediatey, then called me back right away and said the dealer would replace the gaskets for free. Great! I picked up my car, the dealer made no apologies, and charged me for the sales tax on the gaskets, plus some other questionable charges, it seemed he was trying to charge me as much as possible. The car runs real good so far, but I do not trust the dealer. Anyone who is diagnosed with this problem should get their VIN and call Subaru of America and ask about the WWP-99 Service Campaign.
#6040 of 19336 Re: 2006 Auto Climate Problem [pmrocka]
Dec 17, 2005 (4:52 pm)
not sure which mod you are refering to.
If you check back in the Forester discussion, you can find some detail regarding the "fix" which essentially consisted of a micro-fan blowing air across the temp sensor of Hal, thereby increasing response time.
But, the next year Subaru came out with a new improved unit (was it a 7 speed fan?)IIRC.
#6041 of 19336 Re: Don't Pay for Blown Head Gaskets [dennis18]
Dec 17, 2005 (4:56 pm)
Very good advice that we're well aware of here, but I wonder how many people that are not savvy enough to search the web pay for the repair. It's too bad the dealer was trying to take advantage of the situation and rip you off. I think it was a great move on your part to 1) be suspicious and 2) call SOA. They are usually real fair with stuff like this.
#6042 of 19336 bizarre battery
Dec 17, 2005 (6:02 pm)
Help. I just replaced the battery on my 2000 Forester -first new battery --less than 70K miles on the car. When I hook up the new battery the running and dashboard light flash on and off non stop. No key, nothing turned on. It's totally bizarre. I'm quite sure I got tyhe correct replacement battery. It has 800 regular cranking amps and 640 cold cranking amps. Any ideas what's up with this? I'm stumped. Greatest thanks.
#6043 of 19336 um... nevermind
Dec 18, 2005 (10:08 am)
guess I needed to reset the remote keyless entry. Thanks anyway.
Dec 19, 2005 (9:41 am)
I just got my scanner, pretty neat. It reads and clears codes.
My wife got two P0442 codes, aka "EVAP emission control system leak - small" - guess what? Loose gas cap. My wife had place the gas cap back on but not tightened it. Oops.
Tightened it, reset the code, test drove it and it was fine.
Forester got a P0302 code, "Cylinder 2 misfire". Still troubleshooting that one, I think it's the old spark plug wires (81k miles, original). The plugs were new at 60k, so I don't think that's it. The fuel filter was also swapped out at 60k.
So I have a scanner if anyone in the DC/MD area wants to borrow it. It's very easy to use, the plug is right under the dash on the driver's side.
It's very useful to know what the code is. As you can see my wife's was harmless. I paid $105 delivered, a dealer charges $84 just to scan one car. So mine already paid for itself.
Dec 19, 2005 (10:01 am)
Juice, I had a "mis-fire" code CEL very early on for my Forester. Dealer said it was a computer error and sent my unit back for reprogramming.
Not sure what constitutes a genuine "mis-fire" condition. I have had the engine run very rough (no doubt with misfires) after hosing down the engine compartment. But no CELs resulted. I bet it depends on where the "mis-fire" originates--if it is at the spark plug or wire level, I doubt it would trigger. The sensor would need to be back at the distributor level, but may be triggered by a resistance range (indicating either a direct short, or an open circuit). Something in between that has a spark jump (eg a broken insulation on a wire that allows spark to jump) probably doesn't trigger a mis-fire.