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#19180 of 19336 Re: 2010 Forester Emissions Control Recall [sgloon]
Aug 16, 2011 (11:06 am)
"I just received a recall notice for Subaru to reprogram the emissions control module... Do you know why they are doing this? It doesn't say much in the letter."
My letter says:
"... This software update is intended to improve vehicle emissions when the vehicle is operated in cold weather and the engine is turned off and restarted within short periods of time such as in several minute intervals."
In other words, starting and stopping the engine many times before it has warmed up in cold winter weather used to repeatedly dump a rich mixture into the converter, which hurt emissions and shortened the converter life. The update cures that problem by leaning the mixture somewhat on successive starts.
There is no reason to expect the update will do anything more than Subaru says it will do.
#19181 of 19336 2009 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Limited
Aug 16, 2011 (2:42 pm)
Just took my Legacy into the deal for the WVU31 ECM re-program and my oil change. Get the call to come pick it up and pick it up after work. Pay the bill, get the keys go out to car.
When I get to my car I go to press the "unlock" button on the key less entry. It doesn't work. I press the "lock" it doesn't work. No response from vehicle at all with either audio or visual signals. Think "hmm this is weird, it could just be a bad battery or something on the key less entry." No biggie, life goes on.
So I get into the car, turn the car on, go to turn the radio on, and the radio has no power, cannot turn it on or off, cannot raise the volume and there is no lights on where the radio is. Same with the climate control panel. These are the only two symptoms I noticed before turning off the car and returning it to the dealer to figure out what is wrong with it.
Anyone ever heard of anything similar? They said "We will call you tomorrow to let you know how much it is going to cost when we figure out what it wrong with it." At less than 45,000 miles and this problem arising after they re-programmed the computer, I would think they would cover it.
Any help is greatly appreciated!!!
#19182 of 19336 Re: 2009 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Limited [jacobmbeck]
Aug 16, 2011 (3:26 pm)
Yeah, absolutely. If it worked fine when you dropped it off, but doesn't work at all now... it's almost assuredly something that happened while in their possession.
Did you drive it anywhere, or just turn it on, notice these things, and then go back inside?
#19183 of 19336 Re: 2009 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Limited [xwesx]
Aug 16, 2011 (3:28 pm)
Turned it on, noticed, and turned it off. Didn't even bring the car out of the parking spot.
#19184 of 19336 Re: 2009 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Limited [jacobmbeck]
Aug 16, 2011 (3:35 pm)
Then you have a pretty good case to say whatever the cost, it should be on their dime. In fact, I would demand a rental and not even touch the car again until it is put right.
#19185 of 19336 Re: 2009 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Limited [jacobmbeck]
Aug 16, 2011 (5:13 pm)
A blown fuse is the most likely cause.
Now as to how/why this happened... that is the real mystery.
#19186 of 19336 Re: 2010 Forester Emissions Control Recall [aatherton]
Aug 17, 2011 (8:47 am)
I was hoping I might get better gas mileage...as this 2010 get about 4mpg less than my 2009 did. I've asked the dealer, but they say nothing a usual when I bring it in.
Sep 19, 2011 (1:09 pm)
I brought my 2008 Outback H6 LL Bean in for a routing oil change the other day. (38k miles) I also had them check on a rattle I have at just about 40 mph...when slightly accelerating on a hill. My third Subaru... so I know the heat shield sound.
The tech told me that it was not this as the H6's do not have as many heat shield issues (is this true?)
They replaced my steering wheel pump under warranty and said that was the issue as it was loose and leaking. Free ..but did not fix it.
Should I go back and have them check the heat shields again? ONLY happens when already cruising along (not from a stop) around 35-40 mph.. have let off the gas a little and then lightly go to pick up speed. Rather loud ...rattle.
Don't you love trying to type out the explanation?!
#19188 of 19336 Re: H6 Heat Shields [pathtomax]
Sep 20, 2011 (4:05 am)
My 2006 3.0R had heat shield issues. I fixed it by removing the existing nuts and bolts that hold them together and buying some stainless steel bolts and nuts and replacing the old ones. I think they were M4 or M5 size. It was a simple swap out.
#19189 of 19336 Re: H6 Heat Shields [zman3]
Sep 21, 2011 (8:08 am)
Thanks...I will take a look and see if this is something the mechanically challenged can do!
I did notice another odd engine thing last night. The H6 is generally smooth when shifting...this time, I lightly pressed on the gas it the car seemed to vibrate for a second before finding its gear. I figure this is just the normal Subaru auto transmission feeling? My other 2001 had 'quirky' shifts too.
I always drive in Sport setting in my SI-Drive.