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#18720 of 19336 Driveshaft carrier bolts fell out, be advised
Jun 14, 2010 (9:20 am)
I drive a 2005 Subaru Outback XT. I heard rattling recently, and took a look underneath my vehicle after a couple of weeks--my driveshaft to the rear wheels was hanging on by one loose carrier bolt (there are two) and resting on top of the heatshield and the catalytic converter. No telling what would have happened if I drove further or had no time to look under my vehicle. My guess is that they were improperly torqued at the factory or maybe the lock washer on the carrier bolt that fell out wasn't put on the the factory. It is enough of a concern to me that I am posting to keep you all out of harm's way--check your driveshaft carrier bolts!
#18721 of 19336 Re: Driveshaft carrier bolts fell out, be advised [vee_le]
Jun 14, 2010 (10:09 am)
Thanks for the heads-up.
Toyota actually has re-torqueing those bolts as part of the 30k mile service for AWD Siennas. That was surprising to find in the service manual.
#18722 of 19336 Re: warranty coverage- non dealer sirius install [rthompson9310]
Jun 14, 2010 (10:12 am)
In this case I agree with the dealer. Not only must a dealer install it, but I think it has to be done with the first 30 days of ownership for Subaru to honor the warranty, something like that.
A dealer will guarantee their own work for 1 year regardless.
Just ask the 3rd party how long they will cover it.
Besides, we're only really talking about any issues with the stereo itself.
#18723 of 19336 08 Legacy brake pedal
Jun 17, 2010 (3:21 am)
Hi all, I'm bringing car to dealer today for 2nd time of brake pedal issue. car has 26,000 just replaced brake fluid, cleaned and adjusted brakes. pads have 6mm front and 7mm rear left (was told by dealer the pads start at 10mm) so this is good. I noticed that when stopped at light on a hill or flat spot and it's a long wait, the brake pedal slowly starts to move towards floor though not all the way to floor and then it sounds as if the brakes grab. As if the calipers release and tighten up and the car moves forward a bit, like I'm losing brake pressure, the pedal seems to be soft,mushy. Every time the dealer says nothing wrong except I must be putting a lot of pressure on the pedal. Any ideas? I've had 4 Subaru's and for me their brakes don't seem to be very strong. My hubby drove and said the same thing. He has a Saab, nice brakes. I still love my Subaru.
#18724 of 19336 Re: 08 Legacy brake pedal [rebel71]
Jun 17, 2010 (6:13 am)
Sounds like you possibly have air bubbles in the brake lines. Were the brakes bled properly after the fluid was changed?
You can try the following to see if it helps. With the car on flat surface, engine running, transmission in neutral, press the brake pedal SLOWLY as hard as you can, and hold down for about 45-60 seconds, then release. Repeat 4-5 times. Then drive the car normally and see if the brakes feel firmer. If they do, that means the air bubbles got pushed out from the lines and into the brake fluid reservoir while you were pressing the pedal.
#18725 of 19336 Re: 08 Legacy brake pedal [rebel71]
Jun 17, 2010 (8:17 am)
What I write here applies to all cars. Basic hydralics.
If you do not have pure brake fliud in the lines, the boiling pressure drops. This appears to be your problem because it gets worse as time goes on with the pedal pressed. Pressure creates heat. Heat causes the fluid to boil more. When this happens, you have a gas which will compress more easily. The only way I have ever lowered this problem or eliminated it totally is to pressure bleed the entire brake system. AKA a flush. The tools used actually push or draw new fluid in to replace the old with an electric pump. This also gets rid of any air and trash in the system. At 26K, chances are very good some tech did not pay attention when working on the brakes at some point in time and had a bleeder valve open too long while working on the car, because the system is too new for much to have gone wrong. It is a very good idea to flush about every 8 - 10 years or after a major rebuild.
Another possibilty, but not likely at 26K, you could have a master cylinder failing. If that pedal ever goes to the floor, either you have lost the fluid or the cylinder unit is failing. Either way, do not put off service even if you can pump the brakes. Because too many times it will hit the floor and stay there when you least expect it. One reason I will not use rebuilt/reman master cylinders.
AS for the dealer.....or any other shop when problems arrive.....have the mechanic take a ride with you to see what or how you are driving. Many a joint test drive has settled many an issue when it comes to repairs.
As a final recommendation, if all of your Subies are seeing the same repair shop and all of them have the same problem....change shops!
#18726 of 19336 Re: 08 Legacy brake pedal [girlcarbuilder]
Jun 17, 2010 (8:26 am)
Nice post, one of many of yours. Hope you stick around to add value to these forums.
#18727 of 19336 Re: 08 Legacy brake pedal [girlcarbuilder]
Jun 17, 2010 (9:41 am)
Thank you all who posted with information. I follow my maintenance book religiously and I'm doing the 30,000 mile work now. When I made the appointment to replace brake fluid and yes, I requested the lines be bled. Whether they bled them is a different story. The Subaru dealer said to me that changing the fluid is more trouble than what it's worth, because these "new" systems are closed units so no air/contaminates get inside. wow, he must have thought I was born yesterday and being a woman doesn't help. They assume I know nothing about cars, oh how wrong! I prefer the dealer do the work while it's still under warranty. Subaru doesn't recommend brake flushing. Test driving with a tech didn't reveal anything except frustration, " I don't feel a problem" The rotors have never been turned either, I won't let them. If they say everything is fine, how do I insist it's not and make them delve further while being nice
#18728 of 19336 Re: 08 Legacy brake pedal [rebel71]
Jun 17, 2010 (11:54 am)
As suggested by girlcarbuilder above, try a different dealer.
#18729 of 19336 08 Legacy front wheel fixed?
Jun 21, 2010 (2:50 pm)
I've been trying to diagnose an intermittent noise coming from the front left tire area for over a year. dealer couldn't fix till they heard it. I've suspected the wheel bearing all along. Today, the tech rode w/me confirmed noise and they replaced the wheel bearing assembly under warranty, whew! I'm disappointed that a wheel bearing would fail so soon at 13,000 original start of issue, now at 26,000. I guess from what I've read Subaru still has an issue w/ their wheel bearings. I assume it's the mfg. that they get their parts from. I hope this fixes the issue and won't have to deal with this for a long time. The noise is hard to describe it's not a typical humming more like a rotational metal disc moving. I hope this helps anyone who might be experiencing the same issue.