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Re: Misfire [girlcarbuilder] by phil2000
Jul 04, 2009 (8:05 pm)
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Replying to: girlcarbuilder (Jul 04, 2009 6:43 pm)

Yes, we are talking about my 2000 Forester. It throws out a cyl. 1 misfire code, that prevents me from getting an inspections. I am still averaging 24 mpg. How bad can this car be. I wish the state would appreciate that my car is better on the environment that some cars rolling out of new car lots now.
 
I checked the coil pack no flash marks of carbon scaring. Plugs are brand new, swapped cables, problem did not move. Tried Lucas additive, code P0301 still popped up. I do not know where to get a good coil pack to try out.
 
The crankshaft sprocket has on the back something that looks like a bicycle gear. The tips are shiny, which tells me it was rubbing something. The teeth of the sprocket will be shiny (that is what the belt ride on). I think that the hydraulic tensioner pulley (which showed slight wear) was coming in contact with the gear spokes.
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Re: Misfire [phil2000] by girlcarbuilder
Jul 05, 2009 (5:10 am)
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Replying to: phil2000 (Jul 04, 2009 8:05 pm)

Okay, got me back on track, come to think of it I could have clicked on your user name and got the history of posts. Yesterday was one of those days.
 
For starters, if that is the original tensioner, at almost 300K, it is past due for tossing knowing the few I have dealt with. Check Rockauto.com for the best price.
 
Get the gear to compare to a new one at an auto parts store. If it looks different, replace it. Keep the old one for now, tag it: not a confirmed defective part yet. Wish I could physically look at it. Could still have a magnetism problem with it, but I suspect problems from this area to be less likely. Usually it is go/no go.
 
Now, lets return to the coil. No external flashovers visible. Being a multiple coil pack, I am wondering if it is breaking down internally. If it is original, I highly suspect it to be: Years ago, 100K was doing good. The Toy had 180K, but the misfire problem had been around since 150K. As you gather, you are almost twice that now. Maybe there is a wrecked unit in a junk yard. I am seeing them new available at Rockauto for about $150, ouch. which means people are buying them: does not mean they are failing though. Educated guess, based on working on too many during the years. I would say somewhere between 50- 75% of being right. That low, because Subaru quality has proved me wrong before, but the 2000 if made in USA is also most likely made in USA parts. Reason why the next new car is coming from Japan. This is what I would look at real hard.
 
Hopefully, but not likely, a valve is sticking from gunk or beginning to burn/warp. This may have to be ruled out over time. Good oil and that valve job a while back should rule that out. Compression readings do not help the problem from way back then. I wonder what those readings are now.
 
Another thought would be to see if you could lay your hands on a real time code reading system like Autotap.com has. You need to be able to see what else the computer might be able to tell you that is not tossing out a code.
 
From what I recall, the code comes up within a 100 mile run, which forces it to be dealt with.
 
Yup, I agree with you about emissions. I am still amused by the rebates placed out there. 86 Toy may run well, but I seriously doubt it would pass an OBD II computer pain in the butt.
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Shift Knob Vibrations by jasvic
Jul 08, 2009 (12:29 pm)
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Hi All,
 
I'm leasing an 09 Impreza premium.... Since day one there has been a lot of vibration in the shift knob, even when stopped and idling. Is this normal for the model or is something up?
 
Thanks in advance
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Re: Shift Knob Vibrations [jasvic] by girlcarbuilder
Jul 08, 2009 (2:20 pm)
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Replying to: jasvic (Jul 08, 2009 12:29 pm)

Somethings up! Everything I have driven new, excluding Subaru's never had that problem.
 
I suspect the clutch assembly or something is out of balance if the engine is running fine. No codes being tossed out? Like a misfire code?
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Seat Belt Replacement by smudgejet
Jul 08, 2009 (2:38 pm)
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Is replacing a (passenger side) seat belt a do-it-yourself project?
 
My 2-yr old lab/mix decided it was better than his chew toy.
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Re: Shift Knob Vibrations [jasvic] by kyfdx HOST
Jul 08, 2009 (4:44 pm)
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Replying to: jasvic (Jul 08, 2009 12:29 pm)

My '08 has a pretty pronounced vibration in the gearshift... at idle.. in neutral..
 
I chalk it up to the flat-four engine... which isn't the smoothest thing going..
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Re: Seat Belt Replacement [smudgejet] by girlcarbuilder
Jul 09, 2009 (6:14 am)
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Replying to: smudgejet (Jul 08, 2009 2:38 pm)

Yes it is in most cases. generally the retractor assembly is located inside the door trim. You may not like the price though from the dealer though. You may wish to check the junk yards. seat belts tend to be something that does not change much during the years. Be ready to compare what is left of yours with any donor prospects. Make sure you bolt back to the same spots the OEM unit came from.
 
Also, there is JC Whitney you can google. One of our units has belts from there and they have worked just fine for the past 150K.
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Re: Shift Knob Vibrations [kyfdx] by girlcarbuilder
Jul 09, 2009 (7:22 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jul 08, 2009 4:44 pm)

I thought I would shed a bit more light into this topic. I agree it is most likely something clutch assembly forward. When H-4 engines were smaller, the differences in piston weights were much closer together. the tolerances in weights even though allowed in percentage of weight of what is accepted versus what is rejected being the same. Hang on while I speak Greek. You get two opposing pistons with one weighing in on the upper tolerance scale and the other on the lower end....vibration. Now for some simple numbers, but not very realistic. Lets say the acceptable ideal weight is 10 ounces. The acceptable tolerance is +/- 10 percent. Now you could have a piston weighing in on high side at 11 ounces and the low at 9! You got it, shake, rattle or roll.
 
Generally this does not happen often, but it does. H-4's are more prone to problems with this especially if someone was sleeping on the job when they were supposed to be balancing! Why? The opposing piston is the counter weight. Where as in another configuation, crankshaft throws and sometimes additional counterweight shafts deal with this problem more. You still have to balance them as needed.
 
So far, there are 3 Subaru's currently in service that have not had this problem. 1 at 170K, another 215K and the last at 240K. Engine sizes 2.2, 2.5L. Neither have any in the past service/ownership. But when it comes to any engine being assembled, it can happen.
 
My biggest concern about an engine like this is overall lifespan reduction of the engine and when that heaviest piston begins to toss out a misfire code with the addition of any other varibles that become a problem.
 
Not sure what you could do to resolve this issue. dealer would probably blow it off as being "normal.' I would not buy that answer, but recourse is hard to prove short of a complete teardown. That is not worth it.
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Re: Seat Belt Replacement [girlcarbuilder] by smudgejet
Jul 09, 2009 (8:37 am)
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Replying to: girlcarbuilder (Jul 09, 2009 6:14 am)

Thanks,
 
I'll check around at the junkyards and with JC Whitney for the best price.
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Re: Seat Belt Replacement [smudgejet] by samiam_68
Jul 09, 2009 (6:03 pm)
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Replying to: smudgejet (Jul 08, 2009 2:38 pm)

A new seat belt is about $300-$350. Be careful replacing it - newer models have explosive pre-tensioners built into the assembly. I would disconnect the battery just to be on the safe side.

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