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Re: Object caught between Dust Shield and Rotor [kentuckyranger] by steve_ HOST
Jun 30, 2009 (8:16 pm)
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Replying to: kentuckyranger (Jun 30, 2009 8:10 pm)

That happened to me in my '97 Outback about a year ago. Amazing how much racket a little pebble can cause in there. I managed to get mine out (after pulling over) by going a few feet in reverse, so try that next time.
 
Maybe the shields are there to keep gravel away from the rotors lol. More likely they are to keep heat away from the brake lines.
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Re: Object caught between Dust Shield and Rotor [steve_] by kentuckyranger
Jun 30, 2009 (8:42 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jun 30, 2009 8:16 pm)

I did try backing up but the little bugger wouldn't come out.
Also, before I knew what was going on the sound was so disturbing I was afraid it was more serious like the CV Joints or something.
 
The noise freaked me out so bad at first I slammed on the Brakes and jumped out thinking I'd find a Kid pinned under the Bumper with his Bike.
The guy gathering shopping Carts looked at me like I was retarded, LOL!
 
I'd say they're there to protect the Lines from heat like you said.
I just wish they could have spaced them out a little more.
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Re: ECU question [sangerboy] by girlcarbuilder
Jul 01, 2009 (6:07 am)
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Replying to: sangerboy (Jun 30, 2009 6:34 pm)

Never start with the ECU unless you have a CEL. What about spark? What about fuel pressure? What about timing? I noted no mileage listed in your report. So I could assume the timing belt has been neglected. Always in a no start or any problem start with the most simple possibilities and work to the more complex. Saves money in the long run as well just like preventive maintaince. Simply put for a no start, but cranks, check air, spark, fuel then timing in that order.
 
I have seen many a timing belt break upon starting a car up....because that is when the most strain hits them other than putting a heavy foot into the gas. If it is broken, this is an interference engine. The real fun will begin if you decide to repair it!
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Re: Object caught between Dust Shield and Rotor [kentuckyranger] by girlcarbuilder
Jul 01, 2009 (6:15 am)
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Replying to: kentuckyranger (Jun 30, 2009 8:10 pm)

Keep them in place! You have not seen brake problems until you do take them off! They help keep oil off from leaks & Stuff getting caught in the brakes. Wait how could that be.....get that rock stuck between the caliper in a way that it does not press on the rotor, you have a bigger problem....no brakes!
 
I agree, it is a scary sound. You are correct to inspect and determine if the sound is a problem or not. Which it was. Excellent parking lot diagnostic skills. Once you have heard this sound, you will know it on any car!
 
If you can, it is better to decrease the spacing without touching the rotor. Less space means less can get between the parts.
 
Usually when a manufacter puts something on a car, they have a very good reason other than Uncle Sam! So always find out before you really have a bad screw up.
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Re: Misfire [girlcarbuilder] by fendertweed
Jul 01, 2009 (7:26 am)
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Replying to: girlcarbuilder (Jun 19, 2009 10:05 am)

Ah ha ... yes, now that makes complete sense, LOL.
 
... yeah, I've been well trained over the past 17+ yrs. (and before by others) by my friend who runs his indep. shop (Porsche/Audi/VW specialists but they do it all) ... cutting corners rarely works out in the long run.
 
 
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Re: Object caught between Dust Shield and Rotor [kentuckyranger] by hammerhead
Jul 01, 2009 (10:33 am)
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Replying to: kentuckyranger (Jun 30, 2009 8:10 pm)

Don't feel too bad... (and Steve, you can relate to this too, since it was the Villager):
 
My wife had the same thing happen, and the racket was so intense, I had the car towed to the dealer. I thought for sure it was a major drivetrain component!
Boy, was I embarrassed...
 
Cheers!
Paul
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Re: Misfire [fendertweed] by girlcarbuilder
Jul 01, 2009 (11:07 am)
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Replying to: fendertweed (Jul 01, 2009 7:26 am)

Heard that! I get more amused about how some are to afraid to think out what the manufacturer is doing with their "new design." Like I told a guy years ago who hired me to work on electronic cash registers in response to his comment that digital electronics is different than working on TV's and radio's.....What, a resistor is not a resistor, a diode not a diode, a transistor not a transistor.....an on/off signal is not a high/ low signal?
 
The more things change, as the old saying goes, the more they stay the same. I have gotten pretty tired over how some manufacters go out of they way to recreate the wheel. Guess in my older years, I just want to Keep It Simple Stupid, KISS.
 
Just hope it is not the beginning of ALZ! Have enough trouble now figuring where I laid that last wrench I had in my hand! LOL Time for another cold one, it will look better then.
 
How many times have we taken a stupid code reading to find it is not what the code said it was "so to speak?" I have found the extra info useful, but I still have to think out what is going on in the basics.
 
Miss those old 70's bugs, we ran the heck out of those when I was going up.
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Re: ECU question [girlcarbuilder] by sangerboy
Jul 01, 2009 (11:56 am)
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Replying to: girlcarbuilder (Jul 01, 2009 6:07 am)

Thank you for the response. Timing belt is intact, car has 260K so it is on it's 5th one. I enjoy working on the car so I've done all the work myself. Fuel pressure is good. There is no spark, coil checks out fine. Could be the ignitor, going to check the relay to the ECU, I find it odd that there is no power to the OBD II connector. The speedometer and tach (both controlled by the ECU) dropped instantly to 0 when the engine quit, other gauges continue to function normally. I agree everything else should be checked before replacing a part that costs 600 to $700.00. I think the ECU is incapable of displaying the CEL (back to the OBD diagnostic port having no power) please continue to share thoughts, everything is helpful to make sure I'm not skipping anything.
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Re: Object caught between Dust Shield and Rotor [kentuckyranger] by ateixeira
Jul 01, 2009 (12:23 pm)
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Replying to: kentuckyranger (Jun 30, 2009 8:10 pm)

Probably a freak occurence that won't likely happen again. I'd leave it be.
 
If you wanted to file a complaint with NHTSA, use this link:
 
http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/ivoq/index.cfm
 
If they see a pattern of lots of people having the same problem, they could force a recall.
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2006 Forester trashes tranny fluid at 20K by forester_incv
Jul 01, 2009 (6:02 pm)
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Are there any known issues with the Subaru automatic tranny that destroy the fluid? Just did a drain on mine today (20K miles), what came out was clear but very brown/yellow, strong odor, not sure I'd say burned but it really stank. Car was never run low on fluid, but anytime I checked it the last couple years it was always brown on the stick, I never really ever saw red fluid (like Dexron red) in this car. I actually assumed that the non standard tranny fluid called for by Subaru was some new type juice and NOT red. WRONG, picked up my first quart at the dealer today, saw red juice and decided right away to do a plug drain. The tranny had started shifting a bit slushy, the fresh 3.75 qt add has fixed it for now. But why did my 20K miles Forester trash its fluid so soon? Car is driven easy, no abuse, great car overall. Thanks....

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