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Re: 1995 outback overheating [dbcoolcars] by samiam_68
Oct 18, 2008 (3:00 pm)
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Replying to: dbcoolcars (Oct 18, 2008 6:02 am)

That sounds very interesting, and thanks for sharing the detailed steps but I'm not sure I'm following - did you or did you not have a blown head gasket? If you did, I don't understand how your solution would have fixed the bad gasket.
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Re: Update on '04 Forester XT needing new engine [tanager] by paisan
Oct 18, 2008 (7:51 pm)
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Replying to: tanager (Oct 17, 2008 7:13 am)

Swapping a motor on a Subaru with the same year or compatible motor is a 10-12hr job MAX, even for a small operation like my shop's. $1500 to install it isn't outrageous, but a bit high IMHO.
 
I'd go for the teardown and then if it needs more than the shortblock, go for the engine swap.
 
-mike
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Re: Update on '04 Forester XT needing new engine [paisan] by tanager
Oct 20, 2008 (5:14 am)
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Replying to: paisan (Oct 18, 2008 7:51 pm)

Thanks for the reply Mike. I would go for the teardown without a second thought if it didn't cost $850. If I go for the teardown and then find out the shortblock is not going to cut it & heads/cams are bad, I'm looking at a repair nearing $8000. That's what the dealer told me. If that's the case, I can't authorize that repair (unless Subaru pays for A LOT of it) and I'll have to take it to my independent mechanic. Herein lies the dilemma....go for the teardown and risk losing $850 if Subaru can't help me, or just give up on help from the dealer and take it to my mechanic where I know the repair cost won't exceed $4600.
Sorry to the forum folks for carrying on about this issue.
I am going to talk to Subaru headquarters again today, since they never called me back last week. If they can give me a glimmer of hope that they'll help, I'll probably go for the teardown.
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Re: Update on '04 Forester XT needing new engine [tanager] by xwesx
Oct 20, 2008 (8:03 am)
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Replying to: tanager (Oct 20, 2008 5:14 am)

Well, that's the thing, though. Once the $850 is spent, you know whether it needs more than the short block. At that point, you will not need to spend $8000 because you could just have the car towed back to your mechanic, where the added cost is "only" $4600. In fact, perhaps you should find out what work the dealership plans in order to diagnose the extent of the damage. At $850, you should request that they remove the engine from the car. Maybe then labor would be less through your independent mechanic, as part of the prep work is done. I might be dreaming, though, since the poor man would then have to deal with whatever mess is left by the dealership.
 
$3100 for a complete engine seems on par.
 
What a crummy situation. I cannot help but think this is a manifestation of something the previous owner may have done to it. If it was a manufacturing issue, it would surprise me that 100,000 miles passed before it caused failure. Possible, but tough to fathom.
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Re: Update on '04 Forester XT needing new engine [xwesx] by tanager
Oct 20, 2008 (8:52 am)
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Replying to: xwesx (Oct 20, 2008 8:03 am)

Thanks, good point. It's a good idea to find out if they will remove the entire engine and perhaps save my mechanic some labor. My mechanic has done nothing but look out for my best interests in this situation, so I know he wouldn't mind...unless the engine is in shambles and I have to deliver it in pieces in a big cardboard box or something.
I know with these crazy numbers flying around, $850 seems like peanuts. But I will find it hard to stomach the $850 on top of the $4600, if it's all for naught.
Does anyone know if it's possible, or even worth it, to find out who the original owner of the car was? Then maybe I can contact them and find out if they were honest with the dealer about an engine issue, and then the dealer was dishonest. But if the original people abused the engine and didn't originally confess that to the dealer, then they're not going to admit it to me either.
Also, I had a CarFax report done, and it didn't show any accidents or rebuilt anything. Can things be hidden from CarFax?
   --This should be the symbol of my existence for now.
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Re: Update on '04 Forester XT needing new engine [tanager] by paisan
Oct 20, 2008 (7:32 pm)
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Replying to: tanager (Oct 20, 2008 8:52 am)

I'm not so sure about the problem showing up initially. I have a customer who's LGT started burning 1Q/1K miles at about 45k miles, The dealers have been doing an oil consumption test for 6k miles after replacing his turbo, thinking the seals on the turbo were the issue. Now they are on his case about maintenance records, when he does his own maintenance and documented it in my.subaru.com
 
While they haven't denied the claim yet, they haven't said they'll pay for it either...
 
-mike
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Re: Update on '04 Forester XT needing new engine [tanager] by xwesx
Oct 23, 2008 (1:21 pm)
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Replying to: tanager (Oct 20, 2008 8:52 am)

Regarding the PO, yes, it is possible, but who knows if it is worth it. The added history might be interesting, though! I am not sure why the person would not want to be open and honest about it. If that person abused the car, you could not go back to seek damages from them. The phrase "caveat emptor" bears no better application than to used cars and real estate.
 
The only thing that carfax will show is something that hits its DMV or, I think, insurance records. So, yes, there are many things that can happen to a car that would not show up there.
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pads and rotors by logtrail
Oct 26, 2008 (2:00 pm)
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Pulsing in my brakes (06 Forester) suggests that the rotors may need to be resurfaced and I was told by the dealer that this is covered under the warrantee.
Two months ago my local mechanic checked my brakes and said that the pads were ok.(worn about 40%) So if the rotors are resurfaced can I still use the old pads or should I replace with new pads? I do not want to spend unnecessary $$
 
Opinions?
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Re: pads and rotors [logtrail] by samiam_68
Oct 26, 2008 (6:35 pm)
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Replying to: logtrail (Oct 26, 2008 2:00 pm)

You can keep the old pads. That happened to my 04 Forester. The dealer just resurfaced the rotors, kept the old pads, and the vibration was gone.
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90k Service before long road trip by originalbitman
Oct 27, 2008 (12:59 pm)
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First off a big hello to all the old members... I haven't been on the board for some time.
 
I am about to embark on a 5,500 mile road trip in my 2001 Legacy GT wagon. Everything has been great with the car.
 
Should I go ahead and have the timing belt done now ahead of schedule?
 
Brakes are original but pads amazingly still look okay. I do occasionally notice a little pulsing that likely means a warped rotor. Should I do brakes and if so all new rotors?
 
Along with oil, filters, plugs, cooling flush is there any other maintenance I should do?
 
What is the current thinking on plug brand and type?
 
Thanks to all.
 
bit

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