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#17861 of 19336 Re: A few issues [ateixeira]
Jul 31, 2008 (12:36 pm)
I went to one of the two dealers within about 20 minutes of my condo. They both are basically offering us the same exact price, so I'm at the point where I'm just letting the two of them fight with each other.
I haven't been back to either dealership, but every day I call the "other" dealer and get a little bit better of a price (not by much, we're talking $50 increments here), but eventually what it's going to come down to is the financing.
I noticed on the Subaru website there's going to be new national incentives starting August 4th, and right now there's absolutely nothing for the 2009 Legacy. (Unfortunately there's no more 2008's and the dealer we originally went to lied to us about searching for one and said there weren't any `08's within 250 miles, but the other dealer we saw on Tuesday located one about 50 miles away.)
I know that I'd prefer the 2009 because of a few reasons... It's a 2009 so the trade-in/resale value will be a "year" better, the VDC is standard (though the dealers both alluded to VDC not being "as important" as other brands because AWD is first and foremost), the better sound system (which I actually did not bother listening to - I wanted to hear the infamous Subie rumble rather than the radio, though I didn't find the `08 audio weak by any means.), it's just a bummer that the `08's are a steal with the 1000 cash back and 0.0% financing (which I was told I can get)...
So, we're hoping that on the 4th we have at least SOME type of incentive to buy an `09 Legacy. If not, we'll still probably get one anyway.
With the Honda, I finally went to the dealer (Coast Honda in Wall, NJ - they do fantastic service) and although there's a TSB about the speedometer, the fix they tried didn't work, and I'm replacing the speedometer head at about a price of $300, they also fixed the A/C squeaking sound (I was right, it was the tension in the compressor belt...) so my cousin will have it in the best order it can be. Thanks for all the comments & suggestions for troubleshooting.
Only 2% holdbacks? Yuck.
I don't understand how dealers that have an MSRP only about 1,000 above the invoice price that come right out off the bat and offer invoice price can make any money if they're making about 400 per car. I mean, I understand the theory behind volume, but there's got to be some type of quota system for bonus incentives (IE, SoA gives an extra $50 holdback if you sell 1-49 Subes in a month, but it becomes $100 if you sell 50-99, etc, etc.). As far as I know when I was in a financial pinch about a year ago that's how Hyundais worked, they were trying to sell me a brand new Elantra fully loaded for 12,000 out the door... But alas, no Boxer Engine and no AWD. I thought that the Sub dealer would have similarly "better" offers towards the end of the month since they had a quota, but perhaps not.
Funny, though, that the new Legacy would put out less emissions than my Honda Civic! PZEV is a nice thing (and from what I understand 3 more horsepower and a better warranty!)
Uhoh, I'm a Subaru fanboy for life now.
#17862 of 19336 Re: A few issues [pilot1226]
Jul 31, 2008 (12:39 pm)
Eh, pay a grand more now you'll get it back in resale anyway. Get the 09 that you prefer.
Good luck, I hope those incentives do appear for you. It is a last year model, so let's keep our fingers crossed for you.
#17863 of 19336 Re: A few issues [ateixeira]
Jul 31, 2008 (12:43 pm)
Thanks! I just hope the dealer we go with actually has the Obsidian Black Pearl in stock so we don't have to go back again and get it. Either way - even if NO incentives come out, I'm no worse off by purchasing it next week.
My Honda Civic is/was also the last of a major model design before an overhaul, and it's been extremely good to me. It seems like they get just about all the kinks out towards the end, then start the whole process again with a new look.
Just bought some Subaru "gear' to go with the new car!
#17864 of 19336 Re: A few issues [pilot1226]
Jul 31, 2008 (3:46 pm)
I see you are in NJ, I better see you at my shop in Kenilworth at some point! Even just to come hang and grab a slice of Buffalo Chicken Pizza and watch some road racing on the satellite dish!
#17865 of 19336 Re: A few issues [paisan]
Jul 31, 2008 (4:34 pm)
Where's Kenilworth? I'm near Clifton (Exit 153)
#17866 of 19336 Re: A few issues [pilot1226]
Jul 31, 2008 (4:46 pm)
We are 2 min off exit 138 on the GSP.
Kenilworth/Cranford/Rosell Park Area.
We usually hang on Saturdays and Sundays and some evenings. Working on customers or our own cars, more shooting the breeze than work sometimes.
#17867 of 19336 Re: A few issues [paisan]
Jul 31, 2008 (5:53 pm)
Oh yeah. I've been around that way to visit inlaws, but not in a while. I used to live down by exit 90, but moved up north within the last year or two.
I'll have to make the drive when I eventually need to do some brakes or something, I guess. I haven't changed motor oil in a few years, actually. Not since I owned a `90 Wrangler anyway, sold that in `00. Hopefully the Legacy will be more roomy inside than the Civic!
#17868 of 19336 Re: A few issues [pilot1226]
Jul 31, 2008 (5:59 pm)
We have a few custys who stop by for oil changes too. Most move over to Amsoil after 7k miles.
#17869 of 19336 Re: A few issues [paisan]
Aug 01, 2008 (5:00 am)
Yeah, I've never done the synthetic thing, mostly because there's no set "limit" on when to replace it and it's harder for me to justify the additional cost considering the way I drive my vehicles.
One thing I'm reading up on now is the break-in period. I'm seeing some forum garbage floating around regarding different break-ins... Some say don't rev past 4,000, some say rev past 4,000 once you're 2/3 of the way through the break-in and this'll improve mileage, etc.
First new car here, so, thoughts?
#17870 of 19336 Re: A few issues [pilot1226]
Aug 01, 2008 (8:03 am)
I like those but they resemble an Acura logo.