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#17627 of 19285 Re: CU, and making the Outback more responsive [saedave]
by jeffmc
Jan 07, 2008 (8:19 pm)
I believe 2010 is the year direct injection is expected to debut. Also, use of VDC is growing greatly throughout the lineup. It's standard on Tribeca, all Imprezas but the base model, and I believe will be standard on the new Forester. In the Legacy & Outback it's available on the Limited models, and on the turbo & 6-cyl AT models, but it's not available on the base or SE models. That will likely change as Subaru continues expanding it throughout the lineup.
I'm surprised CR wasn't enthusiastic about the 2.5's acceleration... I think it's pretty comparable to its competitors' 4-cylinder offerings. *shrug*
#17628 of 19285 Re: CU, and making the Outback more responsive [jeffmc]
by paisan
Jan 07, 2008 (8:36 pm)
2010 will see an H6 in the Legacy and a larger car (think A6) so it'll address those concerns.
-mike
#17629 of 19285 Re: CU, and making the Outback more responsive [jeffmc]
by saedave
Jan 08, 2008 (8:59 am)
I'm surprised CR wasn't enthusiastic about the 2.5's acceleration... I think it's pretty comparable to its competitors' 4-cylinder offerings. *shrug
10.8 sec 0-60 versus 9.8 for the four cylinder Accord at the same price point.
#17630 of 19285 Re: CU, and making the Outback more responsive [saedave]
by ateixeira
Jan 08, 2008 (9:45 am)
CR gets the slowest 0-60 times of any publication, though. 10.8 ain't bad, about par for 4 bangers with automatics.
Did you notice the Legacy actually uses less fuel than the 4 cylinder Accord? $20 less per year on gas, with AWD thrown in as part of the bargain.
So the Accord was quicker but it came at the expense of as-tested fuel mileage. With FWD it should easily have beaten the Legacy in that regard.
The sliding the tail out thing - Subaru very badly needs to make stability control standard, however it's also a fun driving trait. The AWD corrects itself. To a novice that may seem scary, but for me, it's a lot of fun. Just give us an off switch with the VSC.
#17631 of 19285 VDC needed across the line
by saedave
Jan 08, 2008 (12:26 pm)
The sliding the tail out thing - Subaru very badly needs to make stability control standard, however it's also a fun driving trait. The AWD corrects itself. To a novice that may seem scary, but for me, it's a lot of fun. Just give us an off switch with the VSC
AND Subaru need to retrain dealers like the owner at Evanston Subaru who told me when I wanted an Outback 3.0 VDC that they do not order them and VDC has no value! So I bought My VDC wagon elsewhere.
#17632 of 19285 Re: VDC needed across the line [saedave]
by jeffmc
Jan 08, 2008 (2:44 pm)
Crazy dealer apparently didn't want your money. Even if you're one who doesn't like VDC, it'll lower your insurance rates, which gives it tangible value.
And you can just turn it off if you don't want it (although... could you do that on the OB 3.0 VDC?)
Jan 08, 2008 (3:06 pm)
The sliding the tail out thing - Subaru very badly needs to make stability control standard, however it's also a fun driving trait. The AWD corrects itself. To a novice that may seem scary, but for me, it's a lot of fun. Just give us an off switch with the VSC.
No fun if this trait "helps" the car slide off the road in bad weather. I really wish Subaru let users adjust front/back AWD balance (only on the STI, I think...).
The Outback 2.5i CU's tested did worse in acceleration - barely equal to a Prius. Then again, that test was 2 years ago.
Direct Injection seems to improve low end torque for the engines it has been used on. So perhaps that will broaden the powerband of Subaru Engines.
Pasian, will the next Outback grow in size a lot? I'd hate to see it pass the 190 inch length mark.
#17634 of 19285 Re: sliding [kurtamaxxxguy]
by jeffmc
Jan 08, 2008 (3:29 pm)
I wonder, though, if manufacturers will be using future engine improvements to increase MPG rather than HP, because of the 35 MPG mandate.
#17635 of 19285 Re: sliding [kurtamaxxxguy]
by xwesx
Jan 08, 2008 (5:24 pm)
No fun if this trait "helps" the car slide off the road in bad weather.
The only thing that is going to help the car slide off the road is the driver. I have put 80,000 miles on Subaru vehicles - just on ice/snow covered roads. Only once has the tail of one of them slipped unless I wanted it to do so, and that time the car had quite a bit of assistance from other factors. They will understeer if you do not respect the traction limits, but indiscriminate tail sliding, no.
#17636 of 19285 constant beep w/ 2004 Forrester 2.5
by jhnsn4
Jan 08, 2008 (10:51 pm)
You guys are great! Been reading your comments/problems.
My prob is there is a constant beep from this car with the key removed; car running, etc. It is not a chime, nor is it a beep - beep sound. It is on constant.
It just started to do this (my daughter has the car at school and when she came home I noticed the sound when I went to change oil).
When I pull the fuse for the clock/radio/interior lites (under the hood), the beep slowly bleeds off.
Thus, some circuitry is being charged up, i.e. a capacitor some place.
Called the dealership - no idea.
Don't have service manuals so unsure what is all on this circuit. The clock, radio and interior lites all work fine. Could there be a security issue? Will try to lock the car with the remote to see if this cures it, but car is now at college w/ fuse pulled. Daughter has a hard time not having the radio work!!! Thanx, folks!!