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#14885 of 19336 The Reason for My Question,,,,,,
Jul 17, 2003 (11:10 am)
...about DOHC and SOHC is that last night while surfing the net I can across a website called "The Ultimate Subaru Message Board", where there appeared to be a large number of complaints on blown head gaskets on 2.5l late model engines. No problems with the 2.2l Impreza engine, just the one they put in Foresters, Legacys and OBs....even one on a 2003 Forester! Also engine block problems...What's happening with Subaru? This sort of thing used to be unheard of.
Jul 17, 2003 (11:24 am)
For one, I think consumers are much better at communicating existing problems. And those with problems are the ones that tend to seek out message boards.
But yes, the 2.5l has had issues with the gaskets. One survey found 8% of people on one particular board that owned a 2.5l had that issue.
FWIW, Subaru does cover it under the 5/60 warranty, sometimes a little beyond.
#14887 of 19336 More on the HG
Jul 17, 2003 (11:24 am)
I asked if there was a new P/N for the phase-II SOHC engine, and was told no. Only a revised gasket for the older DOHC. So that doesn't do much for my concerns over WHY? and WHAT IS TO STOP IT FROM HAPPENING AGAIN? As a failure analyst by training, I live by the concepts of root cause analysis, and corrective action.
Juice - I agree, at least the service writer seems to be listening & concerned. Hopefully the guys in the shop are as on the ball...
They agreed about my wierd brake pad imprinting, and said they were 'serviced' and now smooth. I assume that means they lathed the rotors. Also had the parking pawl recall done.
Greg - thanks, but got it covered. Beth is down in Fredricksburg (AMTRACK), so I have her Honda to drive. A friend took me home at lunchtime to get it.
Monica - I don't know.... I keep telling myself that every brand has an achilles heal, and as long as it is covered, to get over it. Still, I am concerned.
Jul 17, 2003 (11:27 am)
Steve: start taking lithium....LOL
Just kidding. I generally recommend an extended warranty. Someone just got a 7/70 with no deductible for $700 or so. When you consider that includes roadside assistance, not bad.
Also, if it's going to fail, it'll likely fail relatively early on (i.e. under warranty), like yours did. I would also expect Subaru and the dealer to cover this new gasket for 60k additional miles. While that may not be written, it's certainly an expectation I would have. We have Patti if it ever comes down to something like that.
#14889 of 19336 Timing Belt Check
Jul 17, 2003 (11:46 am)
Hey guys, we are doing a 30K service on a guys car tomorrow night, anyone know the proceedure for checking the timing belt? Is there a trap door we open and are able to view it or do we need to remove the whole cover.
Jul 17, 2003 (11:53 am)
Dunno, but now my.subaru.com is putting the timing belt change on the 60k schedule, so I'll be interested to find out.
Jul 17, 2003 (12:29 pm)
You can remove a cover, I believe it's on the driver's side of the engine, that reveals part of it and then rotate the engine to see it all. You could also remove the entire timing cover and see more of it, more easily.
Since you're only looking at one side of the belt (the outside) If anything looks remotely bad the cam belt must be removed and inspected by hand to be done really properly. Or if you should see any cracks or wearing on the outside, it's probably best to just replace and be safe.
Of course this is just answering the overall question. At 30k miles that belt should be in immaculate shape...
I have something to say about head gaskets and DOHC vs. SOHC and the lineage of the EJ series engine, but I won't be able to post it until tonight. Very busy at work today, sorry.
#14892 of 19336 crush washer question
Jul 17, 2003 (12:50 pm)
Maybe I'm missing something totally obvious; if so, I apologize in advance! I changed the oil last night in my 04 WRX at 2K miles to put Mobil 1 in it and I bought an OEM filter with a new crush washer...but there wasn't a crush washer already installed from the factory. I figured there would be an existing one there to take off and replace with the new washer, but maybe not.
What's the point of the crush washer anyway? I felt like such a 'tard looking around for a washer that wasn't there! Otherwise the oil change seemed to go fine -- although the plastic cover under the engine took longer to take off and put on than the whole oil change itself did.
The WRX was much easier than my 99 Civic was...its oil filter was high in the engine and usually required 2 scalded arms to get it off!
Any thoughts on that crush washer?
Jul 17, 2003 (12:54 pm)
Brian, next time you change, check again. I believe the original factory crush washer is black, so you might have missed it. You might have it doubled up now, but I can't imagine that's anything to be concerned about.
BTW, that washer goes on the drain plug, not the filter stem.
Jul 17, 2003 (12:57 pm)
Sometimes the crush washer gets stuck to the drain plug. The color and oil makes it hard to see.
The purpose of the crush washer is to provide a tight seal against the drain pan without having to overtighten the drain plug and risk stripping the threads.