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Re: Pressure differential question [rockindubya] by obyone
Jun 14, 2009 (1:11 am)
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Replying to: rockindubya (Jun 13, 2009 8:53 am)

Did you evacuate the air in the system before loading the R134?
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Re: Pressure differential question [rockindubya] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jun 14, 2009 (7:30 am)
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Replying to: rockindubya (Jun 13, 2009 8:53 am)

If you are using the gauges that come with the re-fill kit, they are generally not very accurate. DIY service on AC doesn't have a high rate of success.
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chevy silverado 2004 climate control by taprado
Jun 23, 2009 (8:14 pm)
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The A/C blows out of the defrost vent only even though I select the front vents. why is this happening
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Chevy Venture 2003 a/c problems HELP!!!911 by trachelle
Jun 23, 2009 (8:23 pm)
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Ok, hear goes.. I am not vehicle inclined at all. But I can give good discriptions on what is going on. My a/c was working great, then one day when I turned it to high #5 it would be off, then when I turned it to #1 it was high. They were VISSA VERSA Backwards( It has #s' Off & then 1-5) When I would turn it to off it would not turn off. Now around the 2nd or 3rd day, it all just stopped working. The light is lit wear it says air, and It is NOT blowing though. When I turn on differant #'s low to high I do not hear it change over, but when I turn the vents to come out on top, or the front vents, or the floor, I can hear the engine like change over.( Not sure if that is what I call it Sorry but like it wants to work, no loud noises regular noises) But get this, when I try to turn it to heat, the heat is NOT even coming on. This is strange, It was never ever making noices like a motor was going out or anything. I need air.. It is so hot. Thanks anyone who has any ideas..
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Not cool by oldfarmer50
Jul 12, 2009 (3:33 pm)
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I have a 1997 Chrysler Cirrus. a/c has worked fine all these years and has never had any service.
 
This year I notice that it is not blowing as cool as before. It takes 10 miles or 20 minutes before the car feels like it is getting cooler.
 
I'm thinking that it needs a recharge since it does cool to some extent. If the compressor was shot it would not cool at all. Also, if I had a major leak in the system all the r-134 would leak out and I would not have any cooling either.
 
Any opinions?
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Re: Not cool [oldfarmer50] by imidazol97
Jul 12, 2009 (4:00 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jul 12, 2009 3:33 pm)

It may just need topping off with the freon. It's probably R134a easily purchased at Walmart in a can without dye, without extra oil, without the extra chemical to give it more zip at cooling. Just plain R134a. I recommend buying the gauge that's separate and can be switched from can to can.
 
My 1998 car got light on cooling a couple summers back. If the heat load wasn't great, it seemed to cool okay; but as the heat load increased during the day, it just felt insufficient.
 
I added freon up to the max based on the colors on the gauge--still within the green, e.g. Put a fan in front of the radiator and run the motor at about 1500 and just start adding.
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Re: Not cool [oldfarmer50] by obyone
Jul 13, 2009 (1:14 am)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jul 12, 2009 3:33 pm)

The HVAC is a closed system. If you're low on R-134a you have a leak. Might be a really, really small leak but there is a leak. And since you have a leak, you're releasing R-134a into the atmosphere.
 
You could buy a couple of cans of R-134a at Checkers along with a refill valve. Just make sure you connect it to the low pressure side. I've seen people do this indefinitely until a catastrophic failure occurs either by corrosion on the evaporator core or disintegration of the compressor causing it to lock up.
 
Since this is a 1997 vehicle and it still cools, I'd say you got your value out of the A/C and only you know if it would be worth repairing.
 
A local shop could test for the R134a with a sensor that detects leaks and if its microscopic they can always use a can of R134a with dye in it. I'd bet you've got a small leak in the evaporator core since back in the 90s Amercian cars didn't come with those cab filters and the evaporator core gets trashed.
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Re: Not cool [obyone] by oldfarmer50
Jul 13, 2009 (2:40 am)
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Replying to: obyone (Jul 13, 2009 1:14 am)

Thanks guys. You confirmed what I thought. I'll bet there's a slight leak in the system. I think I'll have the local indie shop do a recharge and see how it goes. If all it takes is a can of coolant each year I'll do that until the leak gets bigger. By that time the car will probably be sitting in the junk yard.
 
BTW, I called the coolant r-134. Is that the old Freon coolant? My owners manual says I have the newer non-Freon system. Am I using the wrong terms?
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Re: Not cool [oldfarmer50] by obyone
Jul 13, 2009 (3:16 am)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jul 13, 2009 2:40 am)

The old coolant was the R-12. The R-134a is what they currently use, yours included. I've seen a canister of that R-12 sell for $500. The canister is like a small propane tank. sheesh.
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Re: Not cool [obyone] by imidazol97
Jul 13, 2009 (8:19 am)
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Replying to: obyone (Jul 13, 2009 3:16 am)

> R-12 sell for $500.
 
I've got a 12 oz can of R12 in the garage. I'm waiting for it to go high enough to fund my kid's college education.
 
The R134a was only needed because the patent for DuPont ran out on R12. The idea that it was ruining the environment is not correct. Same with claritin being replaced by clarinex by the drug company; the patent was running out and now you can buy claritin over the counter.
 
A little R134a will almost certainly be cheaper than replacing a larger item in the AC system. While the environment folks had us worrying about R12 and feeling guilty, the rest of the world was/is releasing R12. So I'd have the shop check for a noticeable leak (not likely or you'd be empty) and refill occasionally. If it were my GM I'd say it seeps around the compressor seals and 10 years was needed to drop enough to be noticed.

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