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What is this discussion about? Toyota Tundra, Chevrolet Silverado 1500, Truck


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Re: Tundra is a Rental [british_rover] by 62vetteefp
Jan 08, 2007 (2:23 pm)

Replying to: british_rover (Jan 08, 2007 2:04 pm)

Well would you rather have this
 
http://www.tundrasolutions.com/photopost/showphoto.php/photo/39120/limit/recent
 
or this
 
http://autos.yahoo.com/chevrolet_tahoe_ltz_4wd-slideshow/?i=izp_dashboard#img
 
Now you can see why the "plasticy" remark cane out. All that gray plastic.
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Re: Tundra is a Rental [62vetteefp] by fintail
Jan 08, 2007 (2:38 pm)

Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 08, 2007 2:23 pm)

Looks like an expanse of dull plastic has been replaced with an expanse of dubious looking plood. Same difference to me.
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Re: Tundra is a Rental [fintail] by chevy598
Jan 08, 2007 (3:25 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Jan 08, 2007 2:38 pm)

Those radio buttons stick out like a sore thumb. Looks more like a spaceship than a pickup truck.
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Re: Tundra is a Rental [fintail] by chevy598
Jan 08, 2007 (3:36 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Jan 08, 2007 2:38 pm)

I don't care for that shifter on the floor. When I'm at work I throw tools & gloves on the center floor where Toyota's shifter is located. I think work trucks are more verstile with an empty space up front rather then a center counsel. This time the Chevy looks more like a Lexus than the Toyota does.
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Re: Tundra is a Rental [chevy598] by bigo08
Jan 08, 2007 (3:39 pm)

Replying to: chevy598 (Jan 08, 2007 1:46 pm)

Yea i do 2
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Re: Tundra is a Rental [chevy598] by fintail
Jan 08, 2007 (3:43 pm)

Replying to: chevy598 (Jan 08, 2007 3:36 pm)

I can agree with the shifter thing yes, for people who use the trucks for work. Maybe Toyota is banking on a lot of these rigs not being used for heavy work.
 
I agree on those big gawky dashboard controls too.
 
I like the new GM trucks...clean quality design. And although I have heard it claimed not to be retro, I see a big resemblance to the 70s and 80s trucks in the grille and light profiles....and as old trucks always have a following, that's not a bad thing.
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Re: Tundra is a Rental [62vetteefp] by louiswei
Jan 08, 2007 (3:45 pm)

Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 08, 2007 2:23 pm)

I'll take the Tundra. Can't stand wheel column shifter and those fake wood.
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Re: Tundra is a Rental [fintail] by chevy598
Jan 08, 2007 (4:04 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Jan 08, 2007 3:43 pm)

I'll give Toyota credit. It's a solid truck, and it's about time. The new Tundra's Beefed up capabilities make it a real player in the full size truck segment.
 
I think the Titan is in big trouble. Nissan won't be making trucks very long if Toyota stays committed to the full size market.
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Re: Tundra is a Rental [louiswei] by 62vetteefp
Jan 08, 2007 (7:27 pm)

Replying to: louiswei (Jan 08, 2007 3:45 pm)

Then get the work truck interior-no wood. Looks more manly like the Tundra's. Look under interior photos. No nonsense, no console. Sorry no console shifter.
 
http://www.chevrolet.com/silverado/photogallery/
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Sales by 1487
Jan 09, 2007 (7:19 am)

Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 08, 2007 7:27 pm)

There were some comments earlier about making excess vehicles and Toyota being able to sell every '07 Tundra, etc. When people make these statements I want to know if they consider the generous incentives Toyota offers at the DEALER level on trucks and SUVs. Last time I checked, manufacturers that have strong demand for vehicles dont discount them by thousands of dollars. Toyota dealers are offering THOUSANDS of dollars of cash on the hood of Tundras, 4runners, Highlanders, Siennas, etc. in my area and I suspect this is true nationwide. To me, this is not differnt from GM relying on red tag sales to drive volume. It seems to be that Toyota is picking up where GM left off in terms of gaining share at any cost.
 
As for the Tundra, its a compelling entry in the market but comments have already surfaced about the cheapness of the interior and its clear that it did not leapfrog the Silverado (or 3 year old F150) in interior design or quality. Toyota may have a tough time selling 200k pickups because they only sold 126k of the old one with heavy incentives. Assuming the new truck wont be discounted it will be hard to generate an additional 75k sales even if the new truck is far superior to the old. IN reality, its no so much that its superior, its just much bigger and more powerful. Instead of trying to stake out new territory like the Ridgeline (which flopped0 Toyota decided to attempt to out detroit the Big 3 by going big. Interesting strategy from a company praised as being enviromentally conscious.
 
I would also like to get the opinion of the GM detractors on hybrids. GM is fully committed to hybrids while Toyota remains the only foreign company to appear serious about hybrids. Honda is dumping the Accord hybrid and will offer only two models in the future. Nissan only has one and will sell it in 8 states. Hardly a hug commitment to saving fuel if you ask me. Since people generally believe that domestic automakers are committed to guzzling foreign oil while the Japanese love the earth I think the level of commitment to fuel saving technology is interesting.

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