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#41 of 2059 Tom by duckshooter May 15, 2002 (6:16 am)
Where in AL were you?   Reason being - I road tripped back there over spring break - Northern AL. Saw countless Tundras, a lot more than when I left. In fact, if I remember this right, I saw more Tundras than any other 1/2 ton on all of Hwy 72. Local Toy dealers must be making a killing. I drove in and out on Hwy 72 between Chattanooga and Decatur - lots of lakes and lots of trucks (and Tundras) towing boats. Now I used to live there (3 years) and I'll agree - there are LOTS more GM and Ford trucks owned there. But on that one trip I saw more Tundras than anything else.   I also saw my first ever government Tundra rig - a state truck with racks of stuff for (I guess) highway work. Must be some deal they struck with Toy for locating the new engine plant in Huntsville.   Jeff
#42 of 2059 duckshooter... by tomh12 May 15, 2002 (6:54 am)
I was South of where you were. I came out of NW Arkansas on 16/23/21 (part of the "pig trail") to I40 through LR to Memphis to 78 into Tupelo, MS. Picked up ALT 45S to 82 through Colombus, MS on over to Tuscaloosa, AL. Then I20 through Birmingham on over to Atlanta, I75 down to Macon, GA and I16 on over to Savannah. Then I95 back up the coast. I really enjoyed the trip....nice country. I left AR about 10 years ago. I have always felt folks from AR,MS,AL,GA, and TN were the most cordial and friendly around. NOT to say folks aren't great from other areas too, but that area seems really special. Tom
#43 of 2059 obyone and tom by h0udini May 15, 2002 (7:26 am)
obyone: "you lack credibility based on your repeated GM issues of which you don't have any first hand experience nor does it appear likely that you have any with any make of truck. Than being said, I guess this if the first and last I will acknowledge any of your posts." - Wow, did Miss Cleo tell you that?   I couldn't care less if you don't acknowledge my posts, I've never posted to you specifically (until now) anyways.   For your information, I retired from working for Kootenai County for 20+ years. Now I own my own business specializing in tree removal. Boy, did we make a killing after the 1996/1997 icestorm - bought me a new Ford! I know what works and what breaks.   tomh12, regarding the sludge. First, the only engines affected by the sludge are the 3.0 V6 and their 4 cylinder. No Tundra engines are affected. Second, only 3300 vehicles out of 3.2 million have the sludge issue, which translates to .103% You see, when you're #1, everybody will focus on you and exploit any shortcoming, no matter how insignificant. GMC's problems as of now dwarf those Toyota is experiencing tenfold.
#44 of 2059 Not buying that... by quadrunner500 May 15, 2002 (7:45 am)
Toyota has admitted to sludge problems affecting certain engines, not admitted to sludge problems possibly affecting others including Tundra. It's always been an issue of 2 things, oil circulation, and coolant splooge through leaking head gaskets cross contaminating the oil. It's been much discussed about the seemingly very low oil pressure readings on Tundra instrument cluster. I think the jury is still out on this one.
#45 of 2059 I didn't know I was selling it... by h0udini May 15, 2002 (7:52 am)
If the Tundra has the oil sludge problem, why has it only surfaced now? The same engine provided years of reliable service in the Landcruiser long before the Tundra was developed.   I think the more likely explanation is certain personalities here are making an irrational fuss about every conceivable thing about the Tundra - simply because it's a Toyota.
#48 of 2059 brand loyalty..... by grayls May 15, 2002 (8:21 am)
People like what they like and are entitled to their own opinion when they make any purchase. As far as any product being "superior" to another is a matter of opinion. Which is better? Coke or Pepsi, Miller or Budweiser, Jiff or Peter Pan. I may bring home Jiff, but don't hassle me in the check-out line because you think Peter Pan has a better way of grinding their peanuts. I purchase my vehicles based on serving my needs and not my neighbors.   As far as the list of "25 best" and "25 worst" vehicles metioned above, I would think there is a middle zone of vehicles that didn't have enough complaints to make the worst list, but had vehicles that also had fewer complaints to make the best list. Is there not more than 50 makes and models of vehicles to choose from out there?   Anyway, just my opinion, I'm sure it won't take long for "bama" to twist my words into something totally sarcastic.
#49 of 2059 Personal experiences Silverado/Tundra by big_tuna May 15, 2002 (8:26 am)
I have a Tundra now and my previous truck was a Silverado. I like both trucks. I got rid of the Silverado at 5000 miles because it developed the Knock at 1900 miles and it just got worse from there. I also nicknamed it "the Prawn" because its' sheet metal was so soft. LOL. But I did like my Silverado, it was great to drive, towed excellently and off-roaded competently. I hope my Tundra turns out better. So far so good.   Happy trails.
#50 of 2059 hOudini.... by tomh12 May 15, 2002 (8:42 am)
thank you for your opinion on my question about Toyota engine Sludge problems as they pertain to the Tundra. I would like to know how many Landcruisers with this 4.7 V8 have been sold. I would think, not many. And since the problem was so small in the V6 and 4cyl engines (.103%??) it would seem that the problem could well exist in an engine that only has seen a few hundred thousand sold. Especially since Toyota did not know the cause of the problem in the first place. I have read that it related to engine temperature variations from one part of the engine to another....this in addition to what Quadrunner500 mentions as possible causes of the SLUDGE problem. Of course, I have also read that Toyota blamed the problem on poor maintenance by owners. Also, you did not address my question about the Toyota engine KNOCK issue that I have seen discussed in other topics here and also at other forums. Does Toyota know what is causing this knocking in some of their engines? Do you know what percentage of Tundras have this problem.   If you prefer, and maybe we should, we could discuss this in the Toyota Tundra Problems topic if it would be more appropriate there since it really doesn't have anything to do with Tundra VS Silverado 1500. Thanks for your help. Tom

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