Last post on Mar 29, 2007 at 5:33 AM
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Toyota Tundra, Chevrolet Silverado 1500, Truck
#349 of 2059 Re: Tundra in person [framer_rube]
Feb 10, 2007 (12:06 am)
Rube, my family have been working toyota trucks for over 15years. My parents only buy Japanese cars because they think American cars are crap. We just finished clearing an old olive orchard here in Oroville, CA for a new subdivision. We cut up the olive trees for firewood. My dad's '90 Toyota 4x4 v6 pickup with 205k hard working miles (original drivetrain) hauled 19 full loads of firewood from the orchard to our house...which is about 5 miles only. Yes...I counted the number of loads because I drove the truck. It's pretty beat up but that's from being a work truck. My dad friend's also have toyota 4x4 truck but only a 4 cylinder. He haul the firewood too, but I don't know how many loads. All this talk about load capacity...nobody cares. We load up the truck until the bed is full. I'm sure that's what everyone does. How many chevy with 200k on original drivetrain still working hard like that?
Oh..yeah..my mom comes by with her 2005 Nissan Titan Crew 4x4 to pick the chain saw and tools at the end each day. She doesn't want to get her $30K truck dirty with firewood.
#350 of 2059 American Trucks are good
Feb 10, 2007 (5:56 am)
Most people I know have trucks from the Big3 and as far as I can tell, they are all very good work trucks. It would be hard to argue otherwise as they have a long history here. So, I would hesitate to say that they are bad. Heck, Ford built its business around trucks! What I think has changed in recent years is the desire to have the interior of the truck be more acceptable and comparable to other vehicles. This is where I think the Big3 have fallen behind their other offerings and certainly behind trucks by competitors. But until the Titan came along, there was never really a serious competitor and even with the Titan, there were so many limitations on configuration that it couldn't be used by construction companies and the like. So the good thing about the Tundra (and arguably about the Silveraldo) is that the interiors are very nice and much more refined and improved over previous versions. For myself I really like the Tundra interior... if the 'rado's interior is like the Avalanche's, than it is much improved as well. I liked Ford's interior on its upper-class trucks -- fit and finish were pretty good -- but as far as actual features, it was lacking. Also the Ford didn't fit me well at all, it isn't good for tall people.
I think the other advantage that the Big3 have in terms of trucks is the number of parts and the population's knowledge on how to fix things and what to look for in case of a mechanical problem. That will take anybody years to get established, but vehicles are getting more and more reliable every year. This Tundra is a serious truck and at the very least, it gives this segment a new level to reach for. No doubt it will sell well.
#351 of 2059 Re: Towing points [kdhspyder]
Feb 10, 2007 (3:49 pm)
Yes, you can get a NEW CHEVROLET SILVERADO 2007 2wd crew cab model#cc10543 with a 3:73 axle ratio and a 6.0L motor that is rated at 10,200 lbs and is has an automatic transmission and NHT Vortec Max trailering package. If there is some trick, please let me know because I think you are wrong.
#352 of 2059 Re: Towing points [usabuyusa]
Feb 10, 2007 (6:34 pm)
True in the 2WD versions you can tow 10,200 with the 3.73 rearend but the vehicle must be ordered with the Max Trailering Pack in order to do so.
But on the Build/Price function you cannot get this Max Trailering Pack on any Silverado. So you're back to < 9000# with the 3.73 rearend. It is available on the Sierra
#353 of 2059 Re: Towing points [kdhspyder]
Feb 10, 2007 (8:28 pm)
you and 'usa' are debating some fringe numbers.
#354 of 2059 Re: Towing points [kdhspyder]
Feb 10, 2007 (11:52 pm)
Does it really matter ? 9000 tow rating will work for most. If I need to tow more than 9,000 pounds I would just get a Duramax and be done.
#355 of 2059 Re: Towing points [rockylee]
Feb 11, 2007 (9:11 am)
That one matters if them ones is to be worked harder. Folks who work them trucks on farms and such, need them ones to be full size and work hard amd last longer. Them that is workin them trucks doin that hiway haul, well it don't matter much to them folks now. Some folks is chasin that truck fad, them ones won't haul with em anyhows. But for them that work em, it matters plenty now. We haul them tabacco trains nose to tail, 7-8 of em at that time. Got that need for full size ones with that haul in em.
Here be 2 trains tied up, more needin to be added:
Here is that 52 GMC, taken years back now, it sure don't look this good now days:
Here be Franklins boy, playin on that farmall:
Good luck on this one now!
#356 of 2059 Re: Towing points [framer_rube]
Feb 11, 2007 (9:28 am)
Now that's a sense of humor......
Well dem farmers, ya know trust dem merican brands out dare on da farm ya know ?
#357 of 2059 Re: Towing points [rockylee]
Feb 11, 2007 (10:45 am)
I have relatives that have a forty acre ranch and really need a full sizer with haul. They currently have a Silvy and its just doesn't have the haul they need. This there Chevy they have just don't bear up to the work load of being a ranch vehicle. It's constantly in the shop for repairs of one sort or another. It is breaking them financially because it just can't stand up to the work load. Has anyone worked them new Silvies yet. I don't need no tell of reading and such. I heard tell in Truck Trend that the new chevy is great for luxury night out on the town. They don't do much fancy dining and such so I'm not sure the new silvy is for them. They work their ranch hard, they don't need to be taken in again. They need a truck that work day in and day out. It's obvious to them that GM isn't up to the task. They've heard tell of the legendary Toyota reputation and yearn for one of them Tundras, but they can't afford it. That old silvy has done near took all their money in repairs. Good luck on this one now!
They would have posted the above themselves, but they are real farmers/ranchers and they don't have a computer much less even know what an on line forum is.
#358 of 2059 GEARHEAD
Feb 11, 2007 (11:42 am)
Perhaps one of those STOUT ridgeline "trucks" will
have that "haul" they need!
Think of the extra "haul" stashed in that innovative
in bed trunk on them ones now !
Haven't seen you post the virtues of them ones lately?
Why bother with either a Silverado or tundra?